This post is a list of light skin privileges I created a few years ago. Because of the recent discussions on colorism in our media I feel they are very relevant today. Some may disagree and I expect that however it doesn’t make light skin privilege any less real. FYI, this post doesn’t come from a place of hurt or jealousy that I have been accused of. It comes from my own observations and studies I citied in the original post. Click here for the original post which includes studies proving the existence of light skin privilege. If colorism is the child of White supremacy then light skin privilege is its grand child. During the antebellum period, colorism was used to divide the house slaves, who were usually the off spring of the slave masters, from the field slaves who were dark skin. It was later practiced well into the 20th century by Black civic, political and social organizations. If you look at Black media, read studies and listened to our friends and family you can still see it alive and well today. Here is a list of 30 light skin privileges:
- Having the ability to deny or not acknowledge that colorism exists.
- Be recognized as a symbol of post racism.
- It is assumed that you are race neutral when issues of race are raised.
- Being standard of beauty in the Black and Latino community.
- Being called Black based on the antebellum era one drop rule.
- Being racially ambiguous.
- People automatically assuming you are mixed and it is seen as a positive attribute.
- It is automatically assumed that you are more intelligent than the darker members of your racial group.
- Not being seen as angry unlike the darker members of your racial group.
- Being considered less threatening by the Eurocentric mainstream based on the color of your skin.
- People not making the assumption that you grew up poor unlike your dark skin counterparts.
- Being allowed to recognize the variety of your racial/ethnic heritage without ridicule.
- Within African American culture being called a “redbone” is regarded as a compliment while being called “darkskin” is considered derogatory.
- Having someone tell you that your light skin is better than dark skin.
- Can color, dye, relax, or weave your hair without it being seen as an act of self-hate.
- The assumption that your relaxed hair and chemically processed curls are your natural texture.
- Not being told that, “You are pretty for a dark skin girl.”
- Your skin color being valued by some who purposely wants to erase their ethnicity and hates their own skin color.
- Taking advantage of skin color privilege depending upon the situation. For example, applying for scholarships for African Americans and Latinos and later passing for other than a minority.
- You have a better chance of landing a job than a darker person with the same credentials.
- You have better opportunities for education and jobs prospects.
- Because of your light skin your relatives may of have had access to Black sororities, fraternities, and other organizations that promoted intraracism.
- Your images are reflected in all forms of the Black and Latino owned media.
- People who look like you rarely portray the stereotypical maid, downtrodden, Sapphire, and dysfunctional Black women roles on television.
- You always play the Black and Latino wife on television.
- Being able to be biracial, multiracial, or light skin and still play a Black, Asian, Latino and White person on television when people of a darker hue cannot.
- Not having people in entertainment making songs or comments disrespecting your skin color.
- If you are light skin Latino you don’t have to prove it.
- If you are a light skin Latino it is automatically assumed that you speak Spanish.
- You or your family have much more likely have immigrated to America leaving your darker skin counterparts behind.
If we really care about Black unity we will focus on the topics that divide us and yes, colorism is one of them. If you ignore colorism you are a colorist. If you say it doesn’t exist regardless of the evidence you are a colorist. If you support people who promote colorism you are a colorist. If you see it happening and do nothing to stop it, you are a colorist. If you are silent about it you are complicit and you are a colorist. There is no room for negotiation or compromise. There is no middle ground. This is a great evil the must end. Read the countless studies on colorism here. Now you are wondering what we can do to end colorism. Take a look at 11 things you can do right now to end colorism.
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Agreed. We need to end colorism because as a dark skin Black women, colorism has negatively affected me. I was told that I wasn’t as pretty as light skin, mixed, White and Latina women and that I needed to weave or straighten my hair to be ”pretty”. Black men overlooked me for lighter and White women and images of women who look like me portrayed as beautiful and desirable in the media rarely exists. And I don’t want other darker skin Black women going through the same thing. As much as I try to feel better about myself and my skin and hair, I struggle with that pain deep down.
You are absolutely correct.
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Ok sistah, I’m going to break it down for you. I am the complexion of Halle Berry same complexion, more white features than black. Yes I am a black woman born to a woman the complexion of Gabrielle Union and a man the complexion of Iris Elba. Out of the 6 children I am the only light one, getting complexion from my mom dad side. My mom have some high yells sisters and a high yella brother as some of us like to say. She also have brown to dark brown siblings. I also have what a lot of black people refer to as that good hair. Now that part is out of the way….let’s get on with it. Why do so many black women limit themselves to only black men? Men who ignore them and trample over you like you don’t exist. Do you know how big the world is? how many cities and towns in each state. Do you know how many men dream of having and being with a woman of your complexion? I have dated white, Hispanic, jamaican, Panamanian, Greek, russian,Taiwanese, etc. Honey trust me they are all men that treated me with respect amd like a queen. That myth crap about black men having the ultimate package….bunch of garbage. So my message to you is to stop limiting yourself and open yourself to all the possibilities around you.
Janet, one of the privileges a light skinned black woman has over a dark skinned black woman is that we don’t have the liberty of “limiting ourselves.” I hope you’ve seen the Buzz Feed (I think it’s Buzz Feed) video of race preference and dating. I’m not saying that just because a man is of a different race, he won’t prefer or appreciate the beauty of a dark skinned woman, but I’m saying that if it’s hard enough dating a black man, how much harder will it be dating a man who isn’t black?
That being said, this article and issue has relatively little to do with how attracted black men are to us.
This is an interesting topic. I’m a light skinned Black woman (Black and Creole in my dad’s side, and Samoan and German on my mother’s) and I definitely think colorism is an issue. I don’t think that we should separate ourselves from our darker skinned sisters though. I saw above someone said that we don’t want to acknowledge that colorism exists because we don’t want to feel guilty? What should we feel guilty for? We’re still discriminated against, same as darker skinned women, only we get more privileges because of someone else’s prejudiced thinking. It only drives a wedge between us when you start doling out blame, and we should be united against this issue, not divided. We get enough crap from prejudiced white people, so let’s join together and empower each other, and make it a point to show that all black women of all shades are equally beautiful and important.
There is actually no such thing as
a “LIGHT-skinned BLACK person”.
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Hello! Proud Redbone here! While I do not agree with this post, Bougie, I’m glad you wrote this, it’s very eye opening. I can REALLY see why some dark skinned kin folks have and continued to treat me like they do based on perceived advantages. What do you call it when a dark skin mf wants to start a fight with me for no reason at all? Because some boy looked at me first before them? Because they think I can fit in with white people easier? Stupid shit! Every time this happens, I usually finish the fight and then they ended up trying to be friends with me later! WTF? I also find it unbecoming that people including in my family are obsessed with my ethic makeup and features. I always have to be the bigger person to people 10x my age and say “How about loving yourselves for the skin tone you’re in?” Then I say “Y’all too old for that shit, I should be learning from you guys.” And the biggest one I have to say? “Stop calling my skin color superior.” That is bad. Maybe I just don’t see the insecurity factor because I consider myself extremely confident, and I don’t compare myself to others.
After reading this list, what am I supposed to do? Feel guilty because of my skin tone? I do not feel guity for my looks, or my diverse ethic backgrounds! I don’t lol. ANY so called advantage I had in my life I worked for! No one has given me shit! I do treat people the way I want to be treated, (including the darkies) despite some picking a fight and seeing me as a easy target. Just for the record any guy that’s overly obsessed with my ethic makeup and make rude remarks about me being better looking than a dark skin sister I walk away from. In fact I run.
Here’s another thing to consider: if you walk into a situation expecting to be treated bad because of your skin color and then get treated badly, guess what? You may have hung your own self with a rope. Look at the attitude you are putting out there before screaming racism. Look, I’ve had my fair share of racist things happen to me. I get it babes! Racism exists. But consider the energy you are putting out there first. If you choose to keep dwelling in this, it’s totally up to you. This argument is going to be around for eternity and I plan on telling people my skin hue is not superior for eternity. It’s an excuse for shortcomings. Were you dumped by a guy for a light skin woman who you perceive look better than you? Were you cut from a competitive job position and saw a redbone got it instead and took it personal? I can’t read your mind, but there may have been other factors there than you failed to see. So what the hell are you going to do about it? Let it get you bitter? Let it kick you down? Don’t. There’s something better in store for you if you get the attitude in check, promise!
The one thing colorism fails to miss is the fact that us light skinned also face a level of challenges and believe it or not, we get hate from everyone and really don’t fit in no where (this is especially for people that waste time on this subject). I let a group of my dark skin friends look at this, and they think it’s ridiculous. Guess what, I think it’s ridiculous too! There’s some pretty dark skin people out there! I also know some dark skin people that are extremely confident in themselves. My so called “superior” skin tone doesn’t intimidate them or bother them because they don’t compare themselves to me or wonder if a guy is going to look at me first over them. I’m in entertainment and trust me if you met some of these bad ass darkies they would tell you why this list is annoying. I don’t dwell on this, and tend to stay away from people that do.
P.S. The reason why light skin is better than dark skin is because people are fundamentally stupid.
P.S. 2: Wishing everyone dealing with issues in this area internal peace. And to get the confidence to not let external factors bring you down.
I am light skinned and grew up with full siblings who were obviously black, do you know what it is like to be around white people who you think are your friends say the n word or refer to blacks in a horrible way, or to not be accepted by ANY race. If I said I was black, I was called a liar if I said I was white I was “passing” I could not win. so now I say to anyone I know I may be spending any amount of time with, ” I am black so if you are racist, keep it to yourself! I hate my light skin!
Go out sit out in the sun. WHen you BLacks call yourselves “light Skin” you actually are DARK to all other races. So don’t worry, you probably dark. hahah..
First of all, there are Indian, Mexican, Hispanic and Sicillian Italians that are darker than some black people. Your argument makes no sense and you should consider doing research next time before you make such an ignorant comment.
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Your fantasy fable is full of nonsense.
There are only two ways that
your trite-tale could be true
… and they are as follow:
either
(1) your ‘siblings’ are either
‘step, half, adopted or foster’
or
(2) your skin is not actually what
most people think of as being ‘light’.
That’s it … and the link that’s
been posted here … says it all:
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You forgot to mention the morbid hatred that dark skinned women have for light skinned women.
Excellent point, ‘Amber’.
If I had a dollar for every time I witnessed a
woman (or girl) with dark skin behave with
unprovoked hostility and even with violence
toward those with light skin … I would be a
very, very very economically well-off person.
“assumption that your relaxed hair and chemically processed curls are your natural texture.”
Hate to say it,but most of us who are light skin, have natural curls. Mine are not fake curls, and I’m light skin, and people dostill ask me what I “did to my hair” or, ” is it a weave?” …(Even though my hair looks natural) It’s because you do see non-curlied haired light skin blacks with jerri curls and weaves. People will still assume your hair has to be fake,because so many black women wear weaves.
. I’m light, but I become enraged when people assume one of my dark skin relatives or friends have fake hair or jerri curls. I introduced a friend of mine to a good looking black man I know, and after they met, he had the nerve to ask me if her hair was “Really THAT long….naturally” When I said, Uh…yes, it’s her real hair” He said, well I’m imoressed, being that she’s dark skin” Most of us, don’t appreciate the ignorance that we see others show towards darker people. My child is dark,and her hair is long. Not all black people have to process their hair to get it curly or long, but you do see more ignorance shown towards darker black people. All I can say, is to spend time in the south, ifyou’re lightskin in the south, you still gonna get stopped in your car by white cops.
I will admit, that when someone ask if all my hair is real, I wantto punch their lights out. I wonder often what tge hell is wrong with people? I think people like that are worthless.
Ghost, they don’t ask if it’s our real hair until they find out we’re black….Lmto. Somebody told me one time that my beautiful brown skinned daughter didn’t look anything like me. It’s the way they said it that made me say….so what the fuck you trying to say bitch? she still gorgeous. Bitch want to stutter and say no I didn’t mean anything by it. Well next time keep your mouth shut, always our own kind.
Be recognized as a symbol of post racism
Not all light black people are mixed with “massa” blood. Many of us come from different tribes.Light color, Non-mixed,isolated Africans from certain tribes come in gold, tan auburnish red as well as dark brown and black. In fact, the Igbo people varied n shade, and the Igbo nation is where most African Americans originated from. The white European saw the beautiful women in the Igbo tribe and wanted them as sex slaves originally. Igbo were known for their extreme rare beauty and grace. The problem was those women had high suicide rates. They never talk about some of the failed attempts to bargain for slaves out of Africa. Or about some of the slaves jumping ship. Europeans came in with guns and canons to do “business” with the African tribes to get sex slaves. Sex, free kitchen help etc…
I want to point out too, that African hair and features also tend to vary from one tribe to another. I suggested a long time ago, we as black parents make sure our kids are taught our history through our eyes, not just through the eyes of the white school system.
They teach you about that womanizer, preacher Martin Luther King to pacify you, and you believe that is a good thing. They lie to you, tell you, you’re records were lost, teach you about how we were just conquered slaves…nothing more. The West Indies and South:-)America is where they dropped 80% of the slaves off. We are told that we only vary due to white people, but that’s the furthest thing from the truth.
58% of AA have atleast 12.5% european ancestry. try to find light skinned peoples in african, cant be done.
All I have to say is..that fool that claims that there is no tribe in Africa that has light-skinned people is clearly delusional. Stop believing the media and find out for yourself. As a matter of fact, read a book. No actually don’t do that because you might not understand what they’re saying. Dig a hole.
Khoisan people are have lighter skin, Ethan.
funny how I live in Africa and see tons of light skinned black people… hmm…
Ethan I am from and still in Africa and I have light skin and no, its not mixed. It depends on which part of Africa one is from. Have you even been to Africa?
Nonsense.
The Igbo and other “less-dark” African tribes
are NOT seen as having ‘light-skin’ by most
people in the world that live outside of Africa.
Also — less than 6% of the Blacks taken from
Africa were even sent to the U.S. (most were
sent to the Caribbean and Brazil) and the less
than 6% that arrived to the U.S. were NOT
from the ‘Igbo’ and less-dark tribes of Africa.
In addition — MOST of the race-mixing that
occurred in the U.S. took place AFTER slavery.
THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TOO-STUPID TO
EVEN KNOW THAT “LESS THAN 6% OF THE
BLACKS TAKEN INTO SLAVERY WERE EVEN
SENT TO THE UNITED STATES” — AND —
YOU SO-GLEEFULLY USED THE ANTI-BLACK
TERM OF “MASSA” — IN REGARD TO THE
SERVITUDE-HISTORY OF THE U.S.A. —
— REVEALS THAT YOU ARE BOTH ‘BLACK’
(AND A VERY DARK-SKINNED ONE AT THAT)
AND YOU ARE ALSO CLEARLY A ‘TROLL’.
SO …
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
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THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
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Natives love to brag about being the first people in America, so what, we Africans are the original human. Top that shit. Ahahaha I’m a “redbone”and even I know the loser Cherokees owned slaves and sided with the confederates in the civil war. Cherokees and native alike suck and most are racist towards blacks. Y’all crazy to claim them mofos.
THE AMERICAN CIVIL-WAR HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY;
MANY BLACKS OWNED SLAVES
IN THE UNITED STATES; MANY
WHITE AND INDIAN PEOPLE
WERE CHATTEL-SLAVES AND
SLAVERY DID NOT END IN THE
UNITED STATES BECAUSE OF
THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR (IT
ENDED BECAUSE OF THE 13TH
AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED
STATES CONSTITUTION) GENIUS.
I’m sure we all have relatives who were passing as white people who separated themselves from their darker hued cousins. I know I do.
My mom suffered for most of her 80 years on earth because she believed that she was given away because of her dark skin, even though she knew she was loved. She protected me and my siblings by teaching us to have a healthy self-esteem.
Even though she suffered from the pain caused by colorism and ignorance from her own family, she never once projected that negativity onto her children and I don’t do that to mine.
To acknowledge that colorism and intra-racism exists in the world among human beings is severely painful for those who aren’t willing to abandon the benefits and not much will change until they do and how we respond to it.
We finance much of our own erasure and exclusion by supporting individuals who show us by their actions that we don’t matter and the fake allegiance has to stop. No sane person puts money into the hands of people who have nothing but disdain for them and we do it every day.
On another subject: Are you ready for Gina Prince-Bythewood’s latest movie starring Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Beyond The Lights? I haven’t seen many of the blogs talking about it. This movie will also be the topic of conversations to come for so many reasons.
Again, thank you for your courage.
“To acknowledge that colorism and intra-racism exists in the world among human beings is severely painful for those who aren’t willing to abandon the benefits and not much will change until they do and how we respond to it. ”
^^^^ EXACTLY Von!!!
I fully agree with the main premise. Colorism is real, and there is data to support that. But this list seems to conflate the privilege of relatively light skin with the privilege that comes with actually looking European. As a tan African American woman with wooly hair, thick lips and, yes, hips, I can assure you that I will never be mistaken for white or Latina. I’ve had enough experiences to know that to be true. White people have called me threatening so much that it’s become automatic for me to constantly smile at work, although I’m not a smiley person. Salespeople follow me around in stores. Latin people call me morena. So, yes, light skin privilege is real, but it is granted by degrees of proximity to a European standard. That’s how ridiculous white supremacy is. While we’re at it, we might as well talk about “hair-ism.” It seems to me that the ubiquity of curly hair products and advice these days is not a celebration of natural textures so much as it is a celebration of textures that show some evidence of European ancestry. Not trying to take away from your original point. Just highlighting the subtleties. I can’t help but feel a little defensive about some of your commentary, partly because I identify fully as a Black woman and see myself reflected in every Black woman I meet. I’ve dealt with a lot of pain from not having been embraced as such. But I do realize that my pain is accompanied by privilege. That’s the thing about systems of oppression. They oppress EVERYONE within them, even if they’re only intended to oppress a few. If only we could all see that.
I totally agree, there is a big difference between being a light tan black, (like me) and looking almost European. They consider someone like Alicia key to be “light skin” meaning she could pass for Italian or Latina even though we all know she’s Black.They don’t consider someone like Beyonce or Rihanna “light skin” they see them as just “black” even though those 3 women are all the same skin color, white people don’t see the differences we see. That’s why people assume my hair is processed because i don’t look anything close to European phenotypically speaking. I don’t look like Alicia keyes. Most of us don’t, we still look black to white cops as we drive by. It’s messed up but it’s the
You can even look to old Hollywood, where most “black” people who had leading roles looked like Lean Horne or Dorothy Dandridge. Those women had what Europeans defined as beautiful hair and features. All maid roles were played by dark skin women.
“As a tan African American woman with wooly hair, thick lips and, yes, hips, I can assure you that I will never be mistaken for white or Latina. I’ve had enough experiences to know that to be true. White people have called me threatening so much that it’s become automatic for me to constantly smile at work, although I’m not a smiley person. Salespeople follow me around in stores. Latin people call me morena.”
Hi CG. I follow what you said that you would not be mistaken for white or Latina. But when you say white people call you threatening, are you suggesting that it is because of your African features? I am white and by your description I think it likely you’re an attractive woman.
Ye but from my understanding morena is usually just a dark skinned Latina… so that would mean they do in fact mistake u for Hispanic while still calling u dark skinned…But most latinas (excluding Mexicans) are mixed with black. This is all just after affects of “Willie Lynch” mentality. You know most of the black slaves went to south america right? I really don’t get this ideology that the moment you were colonized by a Spanish speaking country your indigenous/negro genes are somehow void in the eyes of some people -_-
BBG, Long time reader, first time commenting.
I came here to speak on “If you are light skin Latino you don’t have to prove it.” which spoke directly to my life struggles growing up with a dual conquered heritage (Spanish/British) and then I read 24.
I’ve never heard the term “Sapphire” until today. Then I became sickened reading it’s definition and then it struck me; being a wrestling fan I remember then WWF had Dusty Rhodes as the All American Dream and his valet with named SAPPHIRE!
She was the text book definition and I grew angry that this company that I’ve given my money to since childhood has ZERO respect for me. I’ve over looked a lot in the name of enjoyment but today was a wake up call.
Thanks for letting me rant.
P.S.
I’m still pissy with that Root&Bone “fried chicken” video.
Yours,
@TheRayvolution
Some folks seem to be overlooking the fact that light skin privileges exist both inside and outside the race. So please miss us with tales of how tan AAs are followed around stores and tales of outrage that hair is falsely assumed to be chemically processed and focus instead on the privileges that lighter AAs have vis-a-vis darker skinned AAs within the AA race.
To Lynn in DC,
“Please miss us…”
That was really rude and uncalled for. You may not have liked my comments, but I made them civilly. I don’t see the point of opening up these conversations within the AA community if they can’t be civil. I was simply pointing out the subtleties that exist. And perhaps you were mainly concerned with privileges within the “race,” but the list that Bougie Black Girl initially posted referred both to privileges within the race and across racial lines. And, to my original point, not everyone who is “light-skinned” enjoys (nor wishes to enjoy) those privileges. Speaking of missing, you seem to have missed entirely my acknowledgment that light-skinned privilege exists and that I have benefited from it. That is plain as day, and I don’t see anyone denying it.
To defend the other poster you targeted, the woman who talked about hair, to be fair, BBG included that in her list. I can’t imagine why it’s a “privilege” anyway to have someone assume that your curly hair is naturally that way. Nor do I understand being upset that people would assume that your hair is processed. But you might as well be as angry about that having been originally on BBG’s list as you are about the commenter. Otherwise, dismiss it as a point you disagree with and let them have their own perspective.
I also noted in my post my feelings of complete solidarity with all black women, regardless of hue. If you want to talk about experiences within the race, let’s be frank and acknowledge that light-skinned women have to deal with a lot of anger and resentment from darker-skinned women. I understand where it is coming from, but that doesn’t make it easier to take. I have always had to work at belonging with black women, to work at proving that I was “down” and that I don’t see myself as better because of the color of my skin. As for the “privilege” of being considered more attractive by certain types of black men, I find it sickening. Being called “redbone” doesn’t feel like a compliment. It feels like sexual harassment. And let’s also talk about how my light skin is a constant reminder of the rapes that women in my ancestry endured at the hands of white men. I am not proud of that. Not at all.
But do I get followed around in stores? Yes, I do. You may not want me to claim that aspect of my experience. And, yet, it bonds us. I may have privilege but, like you, I am the target of racial and sexist oppression. I have to fight it. I would hope that we could fight it together, recognizing that the experience of oppression has been different for us, but not letting that drive us apart.
Here is the issue, don’t k of if anybody is even reading this anymore just happen to run across this. But I am a Dark skinned woman and I have no issues with any color, but I have felt the wrath myself, but the point is ANY PRIVILEGE is better than none. THAT is the whole point of this . We as darker skinned have none so everything we do or prove (from education, to beauty, to career etc.) Is a struggle. I know light skinned women have some struggles but the struggle is much greater because believe or not, admit it or not or just have a blind eye, light skinned is always superior in this society (hence music videos, commercials, or anywhere in entertainment or professional career). I don’t believe in crying about it because it is what it is. I just want light skinned people to understand it’s not a confidence issue, or a whining session. This is something that should be understood so we can understand each other and support each other as sisters. PERIOD.
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Oh for the love of Pete … will you please
realize and also accept the FACT that …
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS a
LIGHT-Skinned BLACK person at all?!
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You have made an EXCELLENT POINT here !!!
Some people — (such as the obviously-jealous
and shamelessly-whiny author of this essay) —
are under the very false-impression that others
are “obligated to feel bad” merely due to having
“racial features” that differ-from that of the whiner.
Perhaps IF these same people — (such as the
obviously-jealous and shamelessly-whiny
author of this essay) — would STOP with
the Racial-Kidnapping of other people —
THEN they would NOT experience this
alleged (so-called) “colorism” (about
which they love to constantly whine).
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
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You have made an EXCELLENT POINT here !!!
Some people — (such as the obviously-jealous
and shamelessly-whiny author of this essay) —
are under the very false-impression that others
are “obligated to feel bad” merely due to having
“racial features” that differ-from that of the whiner.
Perhaps IF these same people — (such as the
obviously-jealous and shamelessly-whiny
author of this essay) — would STOP with
the Racial-Kidnapping of other people —
THEN they would NOT experience this
alleged (so-called) “colorism” (about
which they love to constantly whine).
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
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It is so disheartening that in 2014 someone has to write a list like this. We continuously throw up walls of division amongst us colored people. This is not something that just affects us people of African descent it also affects East Indians, Hispanics, and various different people of color. This is a problem across the board. While it is apparent and proven that lighter skinned people have more privileges, we have got to stop demonizing them just because they were born with a lighter shade of brown. I have yet to hear a light skin woman say, “I am better than you because I’m light skin”. We have all had our share of hurt with colorism. People act like lighter skin people don’t have their own share of problems. Many of them were teased for being light. I have heard various stories from aunts who would get their hair dipped in ink by darker skinned people (waaaay back in the days) just because they were lighter skin with longer hair. I grew up with 2 light skin sisters and I was the only dark skin sister and my parents put me up on a pedastool and would call me their “pretty brown daughter’ and they would call my sister those “red heffas’. But my sisters were always kind to me, however they have a negative connotation about their lighter skin. They refuse to call themselves light skin they say they are pecan tan lol. But what we must understand is that we cannot change how the world views us. We can only encourage a positive self image no matter what color we are. I know it’s hard to do with the media and society glamorizing one over the other, but demonizing a group of people who have nothing to do with the color of skin they were born in is not right. It goes both ways.
Meme,
Good points. I recognize all of that in my own life.
I think BBG makes a good point that there’s light skin privilege, and that should be recognized. The topic becomes divisive when it devolves into the notion that light-skinned people are somehow not part of the struggle or do not have the right to talk about their experiences with racism. I don’t think we can equate light skin privilege with white privilege in that the former was created out of the latter. The only privilege that light-skinned people have is that granted them by white supremacy. And implicit in that privilege is an agreement to maintain a a caste system in which people of color, light or dark, are subordinate. For most light-skinned people, that is untenable, not only because it means our own subordination, but also because of what it means for our own loved ones who are not light.
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
.
Well that’s not very healthy? “Red heffas? “Again only black people see these differences in America and the West Indies, and it’s foolish.Whether you’re light skin or dark skin if you have West African features you are treated the same by racist people. They see narrow features as generally more like theirs. Color may matter,but only by a small margin.
Making unhealthy comments doesn’t help anyone (which my family never did) I wish black people would stop believing they are the only people with the color wars,it’s worse in Thailand and East India where the color problem is more blatant. If you are dark skin in India,you are considered,dumber,less desirable less likely to find a husband. Relatives will literally WORRY if a girl child comes out dark. Ok and people go through lengths to damage their skin with skin lightening creams and treatments. In Korea you are considered ugly unless you’ve had a nose,chin and eye widening job to look more “westernized” It’s all about attracting a wealthy spouse. Narrower features seem more “regal” and exotic on people of color,therefore deemed more “attractive” The more “unique” you appear from your own race the more attention and respect you are bound to get. That’s why people get angry about the hair texture thing ,because it implies that you are lying and that you want to be white,when you don’t. The anger about the hair thing comes from not liking the fact that people often falsely assume ALL blacks come in a cookie box with no observable genetic variations. The hair thing is about getting tired of backhanded insults and dealing with ignorance. Hell it goes beyod the hair thing fir me. I have a very light skin son with slanted bill fold eyes. He has zero Asian blood in him. He has white blood I him if anything,yet people keep insisting he’s Chinese. I tell them no,they think I’m lying. Africans were the FIRST people to have slanted eyes his Dad has South African blood,so that’s where his eyes come from,that tribe in South Africa. If you can picture Nelson Mandelas features. So its not about the hair thing only. Blacks vary throughout Africa end of story for me. If we learned more about Africa as a place where we come from and have pride in that then we can talk.
The light skin women in this thread are doing exactly what number 1 is saying, indirectly denying colorism. There are studies and social experiments that support colorism and light skin privilege. It doesn’t matter, you can unintentionally and intentionally benefit from colorism whether you want to or not.
It’s light skin women who want the best of both worlds. To benefit from the perks colorism brings but to also be apart of the struggle, because they don’t want to be seen as the boogeyman. They rather protect their image than help with the rampant colorism in their community.
You want the superiority labels (beauty, being seen as a positive character based on skin color, less stereotyping, etc) that best your dark skin counterparts, but you also want to be apart of the deep-deep struggle most dark skin people, especially dark skin women have to deal with, not because you care about unity, but because you want to make sure no one is sharing the spotlight with you and your image stays in place.
They want to be involved in everything which leads me to believe like most privileged groups their fear of not being on a pedestal. They even want to be involved in oppression as long as some attention is still on them and their image is still in tact.
It’s really sad seeing light skin women always rush in and respond like racist whites do “But..but…what about reverse racism, whites experience racism too” then come light skin black people (especially women) “But…but… what about us we’re black too, I had got stopped by 1 cop too that time I can’t remember, but it happened ya know”.
That’s not the point. The point is acknowledging the privileges you have and leaving at that, but light skin black people want to keep their pedestal in place so bad that they sit here and make sure they’re involved in the “oppression debate” to be apart of something because they’re so used to be apart of everything. It’s not them empathizing, it’s them protecting their pedestal and privilege. Simple as that.
Lady A,
I assume that you did not read my posts. To quote the second sentence of my first comment, I wrote, “Colorism is real, and there is data to support that.” I reiterated that point several times in that post and subsequently. So you clearly were not addressing me with your claim that the light-skinned women on this thread are in denial of colorism. And given that I have posted here more than anyone else, I’m not sure who else you could have been addressing. You apparently skimmed my comments and then responded with your pre-formed point-of-view based on your obvious stereotypes of light-skinned women. Yes, whenever you paint people with such a broad brush (e.g.,”You want the superiority labels…”, “It’s light skin women who want the best of both worlds.”), you are stereotyping. Some of the women who have fought hardest against racist oppression have been light such as Angela Davis, Rosa Parks, and many other women who labored in near obscurity. Or are you going to tell me that their contributions don’t count?
Oh, and since you want to accuse me of acting like white people do in discussions of racism, let me point out that you are guilty of the same in that you are denying that the racism I have experienced is real and you’re arguing that your perception of my experience is more valid than mine.
Based on the responses by yourself and others on this thread, it seems to me there is absolutely nothing that I or any other light-skinned woman can say to convince you that we stand in sisterhood with other black people and do not support colorism, despite the fact that we benefit from it. I have engaged in the study of racism and in activism against it for most of my adult life, as have my parents. I don’t need to justify my blackness to anyone. It’s just too bad that, in 2014, there are still people who think that I do. I honestly thought we had left this intra-racial resentment over color behind. My eyes are opened.
I also don’t understand why it is so difficult for you to believe that light-skinned people are targeted with racism. Do you actually think that we are exempt? Do you actually think that I have only experienced it maybe once or twice in my life? You are seriously deluded. It is a part of my everyday life experience. I am sure that this point will be taken, once again, as my wanting “to be involved in everything.” No, I just want my truth acknowledged, as you wish for yours to be acknowledged. Am I saying that you have not had it worse? I certainly can’t say that. But you can’t credibly charge that I can’t relate to the experience of oppression at all. That is simply not true. All you need to do is look at the history of race in this country to know that light skin does not confer absolute protection against racism. The signs in the Jim Crow South didn’t say, “Whites and light-skinned people only,” my friend. They said “WHITES only.” Unless you were European-looking enough to pass, that applied to everyone of African descent. And most light-skinned people can’t come close to passing, which was the point of my original post. Moreover, few want to.
I find this conversation to be really saddening. I hope the cynicism and hostility expressed by the few posters here are not illustrative of sentiments between light- and dark-skinned black women in general. I don’t know that I could’ve expressed my solidarity with black women in any stronger terms than I have here. And to continually have my hand slapped, to continually be charged with embracing a privilege that I have repeatedly said I abhor, is very discouraging. Nevertheless, I realize that my continuing to engage in the conversation is time-consuming and pointless. I won’t be back to this conversation or this blog.
In parting, I’ll just tell you what you seem to want to hear: You win the contest for “most oppressed.” I’ll just sit my light-skinned ass in a corner somewhere, thinking about how much better I am than you and enjoying all of the benefits that come with being me. When I experience racism, I’ll remind myself of how much better off I am than you, and that will make me feel better. I’ll stop fighting against racism since, apparently, I’m as privileged as white people anyway. And I’ll let other people tell me how I am supposed to feel and think about my life.
I am sorry I ever came across this post.
You can benefit from colorism no matter how pro-black you are. White people still benefit from white supremacy despite being married to a person of color or “Being down with the brown”. Matter of fact there was a lot of colorism back in the day as well. Regarding sororities, the paper bag test, remember that?
Colorism even existed way back in the civil rights era. Colorism has always existed it’s spiraled to the depths of hell this day and age though with dark skin women being the main target. No one wants to admit to their part. Dark skin men do the same thing, they like the perks they get from it as well, so they keep on shifting and shifting, and shifting.
Racism and colorism are intertwined. So if you can understand the affects of racism without making any disclaimers then you can understand the affects of colorism without making any disclaimers. Yes I feel like some of you respond just like racist whites or white people who don’t want to be considered racist. It’s also like men who claim not to be sexist or misogynistic “I’m not sexist, I just laugh at the jokes, that doesn’t make me sexist because I don’t do it, even though I say nothing when I see men do it, as a man”. It’s part of the problem.
You don’t experience the negative stereotypes perpetuated by black people and racist whites and non-whites being a dark skin black person, especially a dark skin black woman. There’s two types of racism, intra-racism and the white man’s racism, guess who experiences both?
I have to sift through terrible things about dark skin women 24/7 on social media AND IN REAL LIFE, and not once have I seen light skin women, dark skin men, heck white people, non-white people as passionate and angry as they are when people are calling them out for the colorism, racism, etc they help benefit from or perpetuate themselves consciously or unconsciously.
Sometimes you all need to stop worry about your reputation and start empathizing. When you empathize you give the victim the spotlight and that’s it. I can’t feel sorry for “light skin/bi-racial” tears until I’ve seen you all actually “hands on” empathize with dark skin women.
Do you create PSA’s about colorism and how it affects dark skin women instead of trying to shift the focus? Do you intervene against comments like “hoodrat” “ratchet” questioning their level of education, character, value, and other dehumanizing things mostly applied to dark skin women? I ask dark skin men and whites the same thing and guess how they respond? Just like you all are doing.
No one has denied racism, I’m trying to sit here and tell you to acknowledge the affects of colorism and leave it at that. The reactions are the fear of being at the bottom, that’s the reaction of a privileged group. Many privileged groups prefer people to talk around everything that way they can still benefit and have the belief that something is being done for the victimized group when it’s not.
You’re comment is ridiculous “wanting the best of both worlds” I haven’t seen anyone indirectly deny colorism. Perhaps you need to work on reading comprehension? First thing you need to do,you need to look around the world and see how colorisme,featurism,hairism has destroyed all people if color. If you look around and do some traveling,you will see just how powerful racism really is,and how far around globe it stretches out. Out of all the places I’ve been ,blacks in America have a better understanding and are more advanced in the healing process when it comes to the colorist crap.
Where have I seen this type of response from? Oh yeah “White people”. “Omg blacks are racist too, white people are discriminated against too” this makes them feel less like the bully and more like the victims. Colorism and racism are THE SAME. They both discriminate and place individuals in a inferior group and superior group. Sitting here telling people who suffer through the likes of colorism to only focus on racism does not help either. It reminds me of black men when black women speak out on a lot of the problematic things they spew towards black women, they accuse these sistas of being feminazis or undercover supremacists, with the belief that if we go at white men first and only it’ll make us forget about what they do to cause issues as well.
girl, please sit down n eat ya cheese sandwich ! lol one thing I will never feel is ” guilt” and yeah it is usually the medium tone brown skinned black people who love to talk crap about light skin black people and really dark skinned black people. I hear it all the time. I grew up listening to it. people that get made fun of. light skin black people and really dark skinned black people, deal with the majority of the bullshit, whereas brown skinned black people have no business speaking about this matter, since you are the one always making the color comparisons I notice. you never can be the right kind of black to a midtown black person. ive even heard medium tone black people call themselves “pretty dark “as opposed to being ugly dark. Ive heard statements such as” damn I’m not that black” coming from people of mid tone chocolate. and we’re not talking about how men refer to light skin black women we are talking about how when you go to school and people make fun of you for being high yellow piss color or they ostracize . I’m well aware of how black and black men act so stupid over a light skinned woman. in fact I find that more light skinned black women embraced dark skinned black men over black dark skin men who embrace dark skinned black women. you will see more light skinned women date dark skinned black man than you ever will see dark skinned black men madly in love with dark skinned black women and you will almost always hear of black men say they want a light skinned black girl where as you will hear light skin black women say they want a dark skinned black man. you can’t even begin to get into my mind or know how any light skinned black person feels. unless you are light skinned black.
@LadyA - I am light and I love my complexion, it is beautiful. I have long hair that is versatile and by no means coarse. I am proud of how I look and how educated I am. I have beautiful brown skinned daughters who also have long non-coarse hair who are proud of their pretty features and figures. I have a very lightskinned grandchild who is gorgeous and will be taught to love her light skin and long, thick hair regardless of what you or any other negative person throws her way. I have never and will never believe that lightskinned pretty women should have to downplay their own beauty to make someone else feel good about herself. It’s not fair to us. We cannot help the features we were born with but yes, we are proud of them and happy about them.
WOW! Def needed to be said. I don´t know why each of us can´t be confident without it somehow being misconcieved as´wrong´ to exude only if you are light skinned?? Outrageous.
Your words are so beautiful. I wish someone had told me THAT before I started to tan and literally be the spitting image of my mom just to somehow prove a point I was black. Even now I am about 2-3 shades lighter….before I was about 6 lighter. I like my golden red tan now though, but can´t say that around anyone darker than Halle Barry or of course, like you alluded to, people will get upset.WHY CAN´T I (or my albina grandmother, WHO LITERALLY EXPERIENCED THE SAME SEGREGATION AS HER SIBLINGS) BE JUST AS CONFIDENT AS THE NEXT BLACK PERSON??
*retorical*
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
.
And for all the brown skin,medium brown toned blacks who complain about colorism,really have no right to. When someone,talks abiut being dark skin then in my eyes you bets to be about Wesley Snipes color and darker,because being brown skin,caramel and chocolate doesn’t count in my eyes. No ones,really treating medium to dark chocolate blacks any worse than they do light skinned blacks. Its people with Wesley Snipes color and darker who’d I say get all the mean jokes from blacks and whites alike in the schools and everywhere else you hear,mean things like “charcoal,crispy,midnight” I can’t feel bad for you people of African descent who arent much darker than a “redbone” I see many of you disrespecting the real dark people who actually have experienced hurt and disrespect beyond your imagination. Anyone,lighter than Wesley Snipes gets no.sympathy from me. Real dark skin people do.have it much worse unless they have a lot of support from home growing up. Sick world we live in.
If you’re a lighter skin person you can’t tell people of darker hue about colorism. Stop trying to shift the attention off of the colorism light skin people, especially light or bi-racial women help perpetuate and benefit from.
No one dislikes light people, light skin people are still black imo. But in white society, you’re a little less threatening to white supremacist ideas. But I’m tired of the same old “Shift the attention off of me, because I don’t want to own up to the foulness” tactic people get tired of instead of embracing and understanding that many of you help perpetuate colorism and only care about the topic when someone is calling you out for it.
Honestly? One of my best friends is the color of Wesley Snipes. A black, bald man from modest upbringing who has not had 1 encounter with police, and who has friends (and lovers) from literally every contenient outside of Antartica. He is welcomed whereever he goes, and people swoon over him. . . (I did at one point!) So PLEASE. . . Stop imagining that this is the 50s or something. Because not ever dark skinned person was offered a bad hand at life. People like you are why they created the phrase ¨Playing the Black Card´…. and why they stop listening to race politics AT ALL.
My friend is a perfect role model for some of you.. He has friends as dark as him, Black friends those as light as me, white friends, & friends from everywhere in the globe, and it´s prob because while he is very strongly into race politics, HE DOES NOT USE WHITES NOR LIGHT BLACKS LIKE ME AS SCAPEGOATS!!!! And that´s prob the reason he is 1) so successful in career, 2) so happy in life, 3) extremely confident 4) so well loved by everyone! And no, he doesn´t ´try to act white´ (whatever that means). He totally has the swag of a confident Black man.
Scapegoating is for people what éxcuses´ are for why you didn´t show up for work- a reason to justify one´s life failures. Oh… I couldn´t do my homework bc the dog ate it. I couldn´t get that job bc a light skinned guy got it. . . Take responsibility for why your are unhappy or unsucessful in life… CHANGE IT. You don´t need to read The Secret to understand that.
Furthermore it’s not fair to demonize all light skin blacks who also get called pissed colored,yallow, redbone and ostracized as well. I’d say very dark skin blacks have more in common with us than medium toned or chocolate blacks who sort of sit comfortably in the middle watching from the side lines calling names in school.
Dark skin blacks getthe double whammy smack down from both blacks and whites though. However,it depends on where you live,and the support you have.
Nope there’s no disclaimers. Being called a “yellow” or a “Red Bone” are actually terms of endearment. When these men hit on light skin women those are the terms they use when they’re in lust. That’s not something to be proud about, but it’s the truth. I’ve seen light skin women with these names in their screenames on various sites.
I’ve yet to see dark skin black women have “Dark butt” in their screename, or “Black bitch” or “Dark hoe” or embrace being compared to roaches and inanimate objects. I’ve yet to see anyone use those things as a pick up line on dark skin women because those are terms of shame and discrimination.
The only time I’ve seen “piss colored” is when referring to light skin men. I’d say light skin men are close to the discrimination dark skin black people, mainly dark skin women, receive. Their in that evil vortex where skin color is suppose to be some measuring stick of masculinity and femininity too, but they still have light skin privilege.
And there are no middle skin tones. That’s rubbish self hating black people made to try and distant themselves from darker skin people so they won’t have to be grouped with the inferior group. If your skin looks visibly darker than a paper bag your butt is dark skin to black people and white people.
No light skin people are not in the same boat as dark skin people. The only thing light skin people are feeling now is “guilt”.
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FOR THE LOVE OF PETE …
HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
.
Some light skin black people have kinky hair,big lips broadish nose and big thighs,do you not think they are invisible too,to white folks? They stop us in cars too, I have “mixed hair” lol and I get confused with other dark skin blacks in the town I live in. They can’t tell us apart. Hahaha what a fool some of you are. Chile white people don’t like none of us in da dirty south. You are fools if you think so. I been accused of speeding and breaking traffic laws more times than I can count. I have curly long hair,broad soft nose and lips. I look American black facially and body wise. Some of you need a harsh lesson on white people REALLY think.
All I can say is visit Texas and Oklahoma,this is where you will be confused for one another light or dark. Lol and newsflash SOME of us don’t care about the “privilege” we have. Some of us dont like anyone,like myself. I enjoy life, not privilege. I keep a,small crowd. If you’re black and want to enjoy life,laugh at how stupid most people ofany color are. I generally dislike people of all colors and hair types. And I rarely tolerate,most people regardless,ofcolor, I got over the human condition years and years ago.
Is it ok.to say.i.hate people of all colors?
LadyA i.can tell anyone I want about colorism cuz its my prerogative and being light skin black,.means ive also been a victim of colorism, because I got made fun.of and ostracized all my life for being suppose d “light skin” as for men,and their childish.nonsense, please I married a white brother who didnt care about my color, but I dealt’t with black women who had an issue with me being a wife of a white man. I was a sold out with black man who had an issue with me being with a white man 2. this is the thing, what white people consider “light skin ” black people consider to be white. so trust me they see us all as pretty much brown….yes varying shades of brown, but Brown indeed. just because you view a particular person as light skin doesn’t mean a white person views them the same way. White people are generally on auto pilot when it comes to us. We all.appear pretty much brown to them..if u.have “black features” youre juzt to most people . And many of us light skin are aware of that. I look at color in the scientific sense, not in the social senze like most.people do.We are all brown basocally, just varying shades. The corism,class thing is not new and goes on all over yhe world.
#29: Did you mean English? If not, then you need to explain more because this is not what I know from personal experience and 7 years of research on colorism in Mexican American and communities. I am very interested in understanding what you mean by #29.
SDGarza - I found #29 a bit confusing, also. I live in Colorado, where there’s a significant Hispanic population. They’re almost all lighter skinned than blacks here. And it’s actually to their disadvantage to speak Spanish because they’re seen as less intelligent or not as assimilated into American culture. Most light-skinned Hispanics who speak Spanish here are told to “speak English!”. “You’re in America now”. I wouldn’t call being subjected to that a “privilege”. On the other hand, years ago I was married to a man from Panama who had very dark skin - like Wesley Snipes. Everyone thought he was an American black and expected him to speak “hood” and were always surprised when he opened his mouth to speak, and a Spanish accent came out! He hated being approached by American blacks because he spoke limited English and couldn’t freely communicate with them, and he was equally miffed when light-skinned Hispanics would talk negatively about black people in general in front of him, in Spanish, not knowing that he could understand every word they said. I guess you just can’t win.
Lady A, I hear what you are saying. Dark-skinned black women are hurt individually and collectively/institutionally by colorism. It appears that light-skinned individuals are generally hurt on a personal level by colorism. It is interesting how when the topic comes up, light-skinned people only discuss the negatives of being black and the negatives of being light, ignoring the benefits of being light, which are obvious to many, and include institutional privilege. To deny the institutional privilege is disingenuous. Yes, black people come in a range of shades, and those with dark skin have more oppression to deal with than their lighter counterparts, all else held equal.
Actually dark skinned ppl have the naturally curly hair. Only they have VERY tight curls. That’s why it’s called kinky. Light skinned have more straightness. That’s why curls are bigger and more easily seen. Not all but some. That’s why mixed girl have curls u can see cuz the white n them gives more straightness to hair. All blacks have naturally curly hair. Just difference in size of curls. I’m light and yes colorism does exist. Even tho I’m light I still hate that … U cute to be darkskinned …type of crap…especially n front of whites. We are all beautiful!
Hi. I just wantedlto mention something. I am African American woman. I have two dark skinned parents, but I guess I came out looking very light. Because of this I was bullied mercilessly in school. People doubted my race, told me I was stuck up, told me I wasn’t really african american, told me that I was disgusting and should apologize for being born the way I wad. I’m sensitive to the sun so need to use sunscreen a lot. But when I do I’m accessed of being scared of getting darker. But all my life I WANTED to be darker, because the black community outright rejected me. I wanted to fit in but because of my color I was cast out. Colorism affects dark and light skinned people. Often that’s forgotten.
This is why I know the chocolate, cinnamon, and milk chocolate black people don’t suffer like people with real dark skin like Lupita Nyong (Can’t spell her name) When I think of who suffers the most, it’s light skin and very black people, who are sort of in the same boat together. Those in the mid range to just dark, need to kill that noise.. They are what others expect black people to look like. For example when I met my ex hubby’s parent’s years and years ago, they out and out blurted that I was “not dark at all” like they were relieved or something? Since my ex husband told them I was indeed a multi-ethnic black woman he was marrying, but sttill black, perhaps they were worried what all their white friends would think? I’m mixed with Spanish, and they were always forgetting that I was Latina too. They would constantly put down Asians and Latinos in front if me. Well as I met their family and friends, they all gushed over my caramel, golden light complexion…which made me very uncomfortable,I wondered if they’d accept me if I was very, very dark skin? So sometimes I realize other people with insecurities and prejudices can screw with your mind. I have been mentally screwed up over coloring many times in my life because of this. I truly don’t believe mid range colored blacks go though what very light and very dark people go through. I mean I was messed up over my ex’s parent’s statements about Latinos. I worried would they accept me if I were full blooded Latino? I knew black people hated me for being much lighter with curly longer hair than most, and I got made fun of all over the place by black women, who weren’t much darker than me. They knew I was black, but I wasn’t black enough! Insecure black and white people no longer can guilt me or make feel messed up over my own color anymore. Superficial people are all over this world.
Same. 100% . I was pale enough to convincingly play a ghost in a Christmas Carol! How embarrasing. ALL my veins were bright blue. I didn´t get any complexion til about 20 years old I think! Even then I was yellow for quite some time and STILL got bad treatment. Only after extensive travel have i kept a base tan (like reddish peanut butter), and people STILL argue with me about my ancestry. Even with the full lips and natural hair . . . It is outrageous. My parents are several shades darker, and I look like my mom except slim and flat. Perhaps if my nose were wider (I have my fam´s nose though-not wide or skinny), and I were darker and had any curves, this nonesense would stop. But then again, I WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFF PERSON… So I have learned to just accept me for the stunning Black woman I see in the mirror…Not what other people (darker Blacks included) would like me to be. And that´s the key..And not feel insecure of that bc some other black people feel insecure about their dark skin.
And I have tanned enough times in enough parts of the world to know that I am gorgeous at ANY skin color… pale, med, or dark. So I refuse to sweat it. Whatever I look like today, tmrw, or 20 years from now, I WILL BE CONFIDENT. I hope the same for every other person in the world.
You do NOT look “light” in the ‘photo’ used at your ‘blog’.
Unless you are as dark as Lupia Nyong or Wesley Snipe, or ad light as Tisha Cambell or Jasmine Guy hush up! If you’re super dark, or an ad-mixtured looking person with long or curly to waved hair, I have little to no sympathy for ya. U_U
I am not sure if Lady A just censored me ; or if my posts are under review - but they are gone - or seem to be gone.
Hm.
I really hope this is not the case, as you have been free to say what you wanted to say, and my talking sense would squish this whole argument;
I may take the time to re-write it all, I may not -
The point is, yes, I am light skinned with black, white, Native , French, Caribbean, English, Irish and Scottish. Because it is a big deal to also know the person’s colour who is commenting. I know.
My last point before bothering to argue about whether I should be acknowledging any of my other heritages, and on and on and on about all of that.
I WILL SIMPLY RE_STATE:
I have heard every argument, spent countless hours on different sites. I have heard the SPLIT HAIR OF EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS WHOLE SITUATION YOU CAN IMAGINE< and probably more, plus far worse, plus my own life experience
- I am in no way shape or form going to apologize to you Lady A, or anyone else for that matter for being born the way God made me when I didn't even ask to come here.
So we might as well get that straight now.
I have light, dark and white people in my family.
I am tired of children being hurt in these arguments and being used (not by all, but by many) in this situational argument and in life daily basically.
Do you know anyone who likes to feel that way? Used? I do not.
My other post was FAR more ELOQUENT AND FAIR AND ROUNDED, TO NEGATE PEOPLE ARGUING WITH ME
MArry your same just like other cultures ; Jewish, Euorpean ,
I don’t have time to spell check, I just WANT YOU TO STOP DRAGGING THE LIGHT SKINNED PEOPLE INTO YOUR FIGHTS AND INSECURITIES _ IF YOU MUST STOP INTER MARRYING TO DO SO< THEN STOP -
IT is up to the head of the household - THE MEN
THERE ARE ENOUGH RESOURCES NOW FOR BLACKS TO HAVE SOMETHING THEY ARE SPECIALISTS IN _ ELECTRONICS LIKE THE CHINESE< CONSTRUCTION LIKE THE ITALIANSStop trying guilt and drag down light skinned people -
YOU DO YOU - if that makes sense - LOOK TO YOUR BLACK MEN TO BE THE ONESS WHO MAKE IT A CULTURE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AROUND AND WORK WITH :
OR LEAST ONE THAT CAN”T BE MESSED WITH BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RESOURCES _
DO YOU THINK THE JEWISH PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN THAT WHITE PEOPLE STILL (INEVITABLY) SAY SH*T ABOUT THEM?? NO> THEY DON”T> People will always find something to pick on - just support, marry one another - and LOOK TO YOUR MOTHER COUNTRIES MORE LIKE THE OTHER CULTURES DO _ They don’t CARE about MTV and eing FLASHY - they care about being UNTOUCHABLE AS A MAJORITY _ WHICH IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT !!!!!! AND THEY DON”T CALL THEIR WOMEN BITCHES AND WHORES< OR HO"S , OR severe drug and gang violence, etc., ON A WORLD STAGE EVERYDAY< AND THEN GET MAD ABOUT STEREOTYPES - (these things may happen in theor communities, but they don't BROADCAST IT) that, again is a whole other conversation I do not have time for right now - But please black people. Just keep it moving and focus on what's important.
ENOUGH ALREADY.
*And-
If you are so certain and tired of Rev Al Sharpton, and ‘crew’ of being corrupt, liars, whatever - then get rid of them!!!!
AGAIN; please re-read my previous post, get rid of them, or IGNORE THEM, USE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE NOW TO IMPROVE FOR YOUR OWN SELVES - and STOP BURNING DOWN BUSINESS AND PROPRIETORS IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBOURHOOD WHO CHOSE TO STAY THERE AND TRY TO HAVE CONTRIBUTE TO OR HAVE A COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP IT!!
I love the rain I’ve got Scottish blood too. My grandmother was half Scottidh, half Spanish,she had red hair, brown eyes,shaped like Sophia Loren , her family was Scottish, but somehow ended up in the carribean for many years. HAve no idea why that was. Anyway, I hear people claiming that us light skinndeded blacks are not talking about the “privilegednesssss” of being light skin negro. That’s cause we don’t care about it at all. Or we don’t particularly notice the privileges of being supposed light skin. Or we might know we are treated better,and don’t like the reason we are treated better. If you know you’re treated bether because you don’t look like the average black woman, you kind of have a strange emotional response to that , you might play to it,or become disgusted by it. Either way it’ll ,essentially mess you up for life. You never know if you’re loved or liked for you, and then if you have wider features non European features, people still look down on you,white people especually. Yes, your hair can be curly, whether you’re light skinned or not people still can’t imagine that blacks vary in hair type as well. Hello , if we vary in ski color we can vary in hair type too. Black men are the worst when it comes to colorism, hands down. You rarely if every hear girl rappers talking about black men are inferior, or female comedians talking about how light black men have good credit. I’ve thought about writing a skit on how white men have better credit, but na I’d pis everyone off imagine the backlash to?
Now as for the natural hair movement, I don’t think that’s about showcasing how much European blood we have, more about being proud anand not burning your hair out the socket to get it straight. We all know it’s gonna frizz up. But many naturists get on my nerves too, because they act as though you’re not real or in touch with your “blackness” if you don’t have natural hair. People need to stay up out black women’s hair period!
As a light skinned woman I do not agree with the so called privileges you speak of. Perhaps it has something to do with my natural hair. I am an actress and am not cast as the wife or girlfriend. Not sure where you get these ideas. Perhaps you should consult other sisters of lighter hue for your next article.
There are fact based studies that prove colorism exists. Have a great day. http://bougieblackgirl.com/we-are-all-black-but-you-as-a-light-skin-person-benefit-from-light-skin-privilege/
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
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This is just ridiculous. Willie lynch in full force. SMDH
Willie Lynch was not real and there are fact based studies that prove colorism exists. Have a great day. http://bougieblackgirl.com/we-are-all-black-but-you-as-a-light-skin-person-benefit-from-light-skin-privilege/
Good lord, thank you for saying that Willie Lynch was not real. I got so tired of hearing that story.
Colorism goes all the way back to the bible days, when Bathsheba was described as “Black but comely, tanned as the tents of Kedar”….All of us have had a problem with this crap.
Ok, let me go, I’m lightskinned, so if I overstay my welcome, I am bound to be attacked
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
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I am a light skinned woman and I have experienced some of the “privileges” listed above. They are, however, hardly privileges. For someone else to assume something about me, because of my skin tone, is not a privilege. YOU see it as a privilege. I don’t know what the @#$% a redbone is, and I despise the term. It’s annoying and insulting to me for someone to think they know or understand anything about me or my experience because of the grade of my hair or the coloring of my skin. Been through too much - and it’s disrespectful for anybody to take away or add to my story due to how I look. My point is what you see as a benefit, I don’t. Never did. I don’t deny that dark skinned girls had it rough coming up - I saw it for myself. I don’t deny that DS women fight daily battles that I am completely oblivious to.
What I don’t understand is why many dark skinned FAA have such disdain and contempt for light skinned FAA….for how we are differentiated by OTHERS? And what irritates the —- out of me is how dark skinned women have so much to say about the treatment they received for their skin color AND how light skin ppl always denying colorism - BUT won’t admit how nasty/unfriendly/hateful they can be (not all, but many)towards others strictly because they have a much lighter skin complexion. I am a 42 year old woman and I have experienced it more times than I can count. No, I am not trying to gain or lose spotlight - but if we’re going to tell the truth, let’s tell the whole truth.
Listen to yourself. You sound like Whites who deny White privilege because they are poor.
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
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Hey bougie, your comment seems angry, bitter and resentful toward white woman. FYI Im also dark but I don’t think making feel withe women guilty for being white makes any sense. From woman to woman we all have different struggles in life beyond the color of the skin. Your comments are doing nothing else but causing division between light and dark color skin people. Just think about it. What good is coming out of this?
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You have made an EXCELLENT POINT here !!!
Some people — (such as the obviously-jealous
and shamelessly-whiny author of this essay) —
are under the very false-impression that others
are “obligated to feel bad” merely due to having
“racial features” that differ-from that of the whiner.
Perhaps IF these same people — (such as the
obviously-jealous and shamelessly-whiny
author of this essay) — would STOP with
the Racial-Kidnapping of other people —
THEN they would NOT experience this
alleged (so-called) “colorism” (about
which they love to constantly whine).
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
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I agree with Enigma, I was told at the age of 5 yrs by a teenager that I had ” yellow” skin; At 5 years of age , a child does not know of this ignorant crap. I was not aware of the next derogatory name “redbone ” until I was in my 20’s, but I knew that it was a direct insult! The man who tried to define me in that way acted as if I should have taken this ignorance as a “compliment “. I was never taught to feel superior because of this thing with skin tone. I was fortunate to have a Mother (beautiful Chocolate Lady if this helps) to be proud and content with just being me or TO BE! Imagine my surprise when I discovered later that most of the racism came from within my own community! My own Sisters wanting to jump me after school, my own Aunt abusing me because of HER pain, and this ignorant article!
It is ignorant to you because it highlights unearned privileges. It hurts to acknowledge them. Take a look at the studies. It is all there.
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
.
i agree im black like a caryon all of the boys and girls make from of me i hate it so much i want to die i just want a perfit life this is the way god made so they go have to apeet this and i hate my life love jneria im a 12 year old girl
Hello Jneria,
HUGS and thank you for your important post. Some kids have been taught the wrong things. It’s not their fault. Their parents didn’t teach them correctly. You are beautiful. You may not see it but you are creating your perfect life by going to school, getting good grades and going to college. You are very brave and intelligent for a 12 year old young lady. We appreciate you and the people who love you do too. HUGS!!
We are here for you. Feel free to reach out anytime.
BBG:
I’d really like your opinion on what I’m about to say. I’ve known about the studies for a long time now. And just from living and being conscious, I completely am aware of the privileges and the discrimination that further drives a wedge amongst our community. Some people consider me light skin, some others don’t. I don’t particularly care because at the end of the day, I am a black woman and I’m proud. Like others have posted on here, I have a mother that is of a darker complexion, my father is of a lighter complexion. I suffered horrible treatment from ALL people because I didn’t look like I was “supposed” to if they saw one parent over the other. My sisters and I are all different complexions. When I lived in Miami, where colourism is so rampant that it’s obscene. People that I loved were disrespected because they were too dark or not light enough, etc., that hurt the HELL out of me. It happens at my job. It is my everyday. In my experience in life, I’ve not received any form of privilege and that’s the truth. I’ve been profiled by the cops, not just white ones. I’ve been accused of stealing multiple times. My intelligence is constantly questioned because of my position and my ethnicity. There’s no mistaking that I’m a Negro. I’ve been asked in interviews if I know how to read and write — despite my accomplishments. Again, I do not deny the existence of colourism. So, when I recall my experiences of being a black woman, I do think about the fact that it can and is worse for others who are not the same skin tone as me, but are still very much obviously black. I think of people saying things like this to my mother, to my sister, who are both dark skinned. And I get pissed. With that, all of us are sisters. Even if some may have other advantages than others, what needs to happen is that we MUST and we HAVE to unite. We have to combat this. We need to unite. It breaks my heart to see this continued derision.
No, actually you’re NOT here for her, Bougie Black Girl. I posted an extensive list of 25 brown and dark-skinned actresses so that the little girl who wrote that sad post would see positive role models who look like her. So that she could see that not all women who portray wives and girlfriends are light-skinned. And you took down my list. If you were “there for her”, you would have allowed her to see positive, documented, verifiable information about brown and dark-skinned actresses, instead of forcing your agenda, which is nothing more than a jealous rant against women whose skin is lighter than yours. If you really want to “empower Black women”, which your website professes to do, then stop demeaning light-skinned black women, who are still Black by the way. You might also let the teen girl know that not all light-skinned Black women demean darker ones. There are many who have actually dedicated their entire lives to improving the lives of ALL Black people. This includes activists and writers like Angela Davis, bell hooks, Marian Wright-Edelman and Barbara Smith. Now THEY really do empower Black women. So if you want to be taken seriously like them, it’s time for you to put down the poison pen, open up a book (and your mind), and learn about the entire Black experience.
As a multiracial woman I can tell you yes people are treated unfairly due to skin color but this is what this post doesn’t understand about us multiracial people. One we are not all the same some use their whiteness to get ahead yes because this country is so concerned about skin color that its almost impossible to not be granted something based off skin color even if you don’t try. Second ,one that is biracial is just that part white and black (not just black) Dna proven. Its foolish to think that one should only celebrate one side when both sides are clearly present. But because of slavery black people like and have accepted Bi-racials as their own and forgot that mixed means just that mixed . That’s the problem there no other race on the planet other than black people call mixed people their pure race. An Asian will never say Kimora Lee is considered Asian because they do not accept mixtures as true race. They acknowledge that she has part of the race. White people told black people during slavery hey even though they don’t look like you lighter than you and have a white parent y’all are the same. They did it not because they believed it but because it kept the slave master for having to claim wedlock kids and also whites could not be enslaved so a person like me who is 57% white ,20 % native American and 23% black would be mostly white but still be enslaved because of the one rule. The reason the rule wasn’t law because many of white even nowadays who are deem as white are probably also biracial but have a higher white percentage in their genetic makeup. Mixed people are not black or white. And most will treat themselves as such celebrating both sides or multiple sides if multiracial. I know I do I love being all of me African,Native, and White. Only in America does society want multiracial people to choose a side and most wont because we love all sides and scientifically speaking I don’t have to because I am all side no matter how light or dark I am. I’m only a product of my parents and shouldn’t be made a shame to celebrate my light skin its not putting a darker person down I should be able to love the skin I’m in as should darker people. I should be able to love my family not deny them because it may or may not give me an advantage.
I don’t believe in the one drop rule. It is racist and unfair to biracial/multiracial people. http://bougieblackgirl.com/time-drop-one-drop-rule-let-blacks-define-blackness/
As I’ve said, it’s not whether you BELIEVE in the “one drop” rule or not. It’s been struck down at the Supreme Court level. Back in, get this, 1967. Yes, THAT LONG AGO. People need to get over that already. How many years have passed since Loving v. Virginia, again?? HOW many years since 1967, again??
Also, by now courts accept this thing called “Misperception Discrimination” as justifiable for a lawsuit. It’s the very thing I’ve been threatening everyone who lays eyes on me and treats me like a race I’m not, my entire life. My entire mis-spent life.
I am a 14 year old light skinned black girl who lives in a town with almost no black people. The only other black girls in my grade are my best friends. They are both very dark skinned. I have ZERO white relatives that are genetically related to me. My family is split almost exactly in half light skinned and dark skinned ( dad’s side being light and mom’s side being dark). Only me and my sister are light and my brother and other sister are dark. I could never pass for being white or Latina because I have a wide nose, full lips, and THICK kinky hair. In fact, even though I am the lightest I also have the fullest lips and kinkiest hair. Somehow people never want to believe that I’m black. Just black. Nothing else. I have been told “you’re not really black” or “I know you’re something else”. These comments have been made by black people. White people can’t even tell us apart. I’m always getting mistaken for one of the other black girls ( all dark skinned). White people really don’t know or care because we all look brown to them. When people make such discriminatory comments against people of their own race is when it hurts the most. Maybe you wished your whole life that you were lighter (not saying you should)because you thought people would like you more but I have always wished I was darker. I definitely would prefer being chocolate to being “piss caramel” (something I have been called more than once and not by white people). I would certainly prefer people not saying ” I look like I think I’m better than everyone” (something a black adult has said to me) or “you’re not really black”. I can’t help that I’m light skinned because if I could be darker I would definitely embrace it. I don’t know why some dark skinned people feel we hate them because it’s really not our fault they get some hate. But it really makes no sense why this hurt is directed at people who aren’t even hating on you. Somehow the dark skinned struggle justifies you putting someone down only because of their skin tone. Instead of addressing the problem you are flipping around. Just as hating white people isn’t going to end racism and hating men isn’t going to end gender inequality , hating light skinned people isn’t going to make your life any easier in fact it encourages the stereotype of the mean/ angry black woman.
Just want to end this saying that I love being African American. I think it is such a rich, beautiful and resilient culture. Black women ( light, dark, and medium) are some of the most beautiful women on this earth. Thank you for hearing what I have to say.
i agree with everything, as colorism is such a big problem at my college. though i must take issue with #5, but maybe i’m not understanding it completely. if you are a light skinned black person, you are still black… your light skin doesn’t suddenly deny you your ancestry. or are you saying that there are white people who claim to be black because way back when their so-and-so had a baby with a black person? i am very yellow, but i am black to the bone; so i am hoping you mean the latter.
I don’t think it’s fair to discount anyone’s experience. No one here is “right” or “wrong”, and the only real step to healing is to respect and validate what everyone has to say, even if their opinions and experiences differ from your own. We can only truly understand an issue when we consider all sides of it I am not light-skinned, but I found some of the commentary thrown at light-skinned women to be profoundly disrespectful. It almost seemed retaliatory. Like the dark-skinned women had finally found a weapon (this blog) they could use to destroy all the light-skinned people who had ever hurt them. Even the score. But after you read this, and when you wake up in the morning, you’ll still be dark-skinned. And I’ll still be brown-skinned. And the light-skin women will still be light-skinned. I read a lot of suggestions on what we can do to “fix’ colorism. One was that light-skinned people admit that they are privileged, stop denying that colorism exists, etc. And it hit me - all of these suggestions are outer-focused. Never once did I read that a person could decide for him or herself to simply stop being hurt by the colorism. Because after all, any change we want to see must start within ourselves. As long as you choose to believe and be hurt by negative things people say about your skin color, you are a co-conspirator of your own despair. That said, I want to speak on one light-skinned person’s very sad experience. And if, after reading what I have to tell you, you can still find some “privilege” in this situation, I’d like for you to tell me: the person is my uncle, my father’s oldest brother, who is now deceased. My father’s mother was very dark, as is my father and most of his siblings. My father’s father was light. My uncle, the oldest boy, was born with skin so light he was mistaken for white. And he had fine, shiny wavy hair. For all intents and purposes he could easily pass for white. When he was quite young (census records confirm this), he was sent “up north” to “get a good education” with a white family. That’s what people were told when they discovered the boy was no longer living with the family. In reality, he and my grandmother had been living in a private hell all their own. You see, in those days, the 1920’s, a dark-skinned woman with a white-looking child was suspected of being a prostitute. How else could she have a child so light if she hadn’t given her body to a white man? After years of hostile treatment and ostracism from the black community, and verbal and physical abuse from the white community, the family thought it best to send my uncle to live with a kindly white family up north, where he would be protected and educated in “good” schools. He wasn’t protected. But he was educated, alright. If living with his own family was bad, living with this new one was ten times worse. People soon found out that he was black, and a newer, hotter hell began for him. He was abused by this family and the white community in ways you don’t want to imagine. On rare occasions, he was allowed to visit his real family. My father speaks with pain about the visits from this brother he didn’t really know, and of seeing him leave and then his mother sinking to the floor and wailing for the rest of the night. I heard that my uncle never got over this. He hated his life and everyone in general, and he blamed his light skin for robbing him of his real family.
Bougie Black girl. I disagree with your whole article. You sound like a very bitter black woman jealous of how others are perceived and how you are as well. I dont care about your studies. That garbage means nothing to me. Yeah im Lightskin. Native American, White, Black and Carribean. And I am proud of it. Blacks were definetly racist to me growing up. I went to a all black school (College) and had no friends but 2. I remember fighting with blacks because they didnt like that i was lightskin. Call me an Albino. I never called them anything! Your article is a sad example for your own personal views. You are very racist and you are full of self hate. Sad their are many black women and men just like you. I am glad that I am mixed. I take after my favorite singer Sade shes nigerian and english and says shes mixed. Truth. Im sick of this stupid if your not team dark skin you are not team black at all fine. Because I am mixed. I will never trade my 3 native American tribes for any black people to fit their biased racist views and many blacks are plain racist. I do not date black women at all anymore. I am glad I left 13 years ago. i can get Asian, Latin, White, Middle eastern. I prefer Native american just like me.I would never put up with a black woman’s B.S. And guess what over 800 black women have tried to talk to me the last 5 years that list keeps going. I dont even waste their time because most of them are not feminine most of them even look masculine or like guys. Why would a man want to be with a woman that looks like a guy. Dark skin women are always quick to point the finger at others. Funny how lightskin women point the finger at anyone. They go through just as much or more. If you dont like it. Stick with your own so you dont have to deal with all that garbage. Black women have a big identity crisis right now and they are very desperate and they come off not as strong women but weak to me. So many have kids out of wedlock come from an 80% divorced household, All my family is still married. We are really family orient something black women know nothing about. You need to mind your own damn business(black women never mind their own business and live your life the way you want that way. Stop trying to get others to live the way you see it. Yall are very limited and you will be in for a hard time if you dont change and grow some substance, integrity and values that you clearly lack because I see nothing but darkskin males going at white women, latins and asian girls. They are leaving yall behind because of your negative way of thinking your blame game. your sense of entitlement and you are playing the victim and the race card. You are your worst enemy pure.
I am not sure how I would know as a light skin woman that I was given some sort of special treatment. If you have always been treated the way you allow people to treat you, you only know when you are not being treated the way you expect to be treated. So, how would I as a light skin black woman know I was receiving “special” treatment? Are things easier because I am light? How in reality would I know this?
I feel this is crazy. To me its disadvantages for a light girl as well. …hard to be tooken seriously by men because allhe want is a light girl. And tbh where iI live there are ugly dark skin girls but yet,some beautiful ones. So if u mostly see ugly dark skin girls of course people is going to say ur cute for a dark skin girl. Us light skin girls stuff as well. People think we are all of that .some colors dont look on certain light girls as dark. Beside caring about the negative things about the ur skin , u should be happywith ewhat u are as a person because tge…” ur pretty for a dark girl” and light is better and u are ugly name calling stuff is not going to stop
In america, having any colour in your heretage that appears in your skin tone can put you at a disadvantage in some way. However, the media is more forgiving towards lighter skin because its closer to white. Being lighter skinned is prefered because of the stereotypes and history associated with the darker skin…history dating to slavery as we all know. If you go far back enough, you will know the egyptian pharaohs were dark skinned and Cleopatra wasn’t white at all. So its not all bad. My mother is light skin, but in no way mixed-race. So i am lucky that i have a fairer chance at life (pun intended). You all need to be happy with yourself and play the best game you can with whatever cards life has dealt you. Peace and love to all.
Why was my previous comment deleted? Lucky for me I have a copy!
Really, I stopped reading half way through because I could not believe the nonsense written by the author. I am a Black woman who happens to be lightskin and the only people that glorify me for this, is silly darkskin men.
There is no lightskin privilege, as Black is Black, like really? Do you really think that lightskin Black people are living some glamourous life, hidden from our darker skinned counterpart’s? Or maybe we are, and I am just oblivious to it?
However, one thing I do know is that there is something wrong within the Black community when it comes to colorism. Growing up hearing lightskin family members tell me that my darkskin grandmother only likes me because I am lightskin; which was never the case. Or only having problems/fights with darkskin girls or having Black men tell me they only like me because I am lightskin, like really? Such behaviour sickens me and due to the many issues surrounding my Black men, I made a conscious decision to no longer date them.
My boyfriend is Latino, and is very pale in complexion, (though both his parents are the same colour as me). And since I’ve been dating him what have all my darkskin girlfriends said about him without even knowing him, whenever I try to explain that he likes black women, their response is “no I think he likes extoic women, that are your complexion but def not darkskin women”. *Rolls eyes* like really! My boo finds women attractive, he’s not caught up in this colour thing.
He did one time confess to me after forcing it out of him that Spanish women turned him on, which was slightly hard to digest at first, as it made me think, well what the hell are you doing with me? I did however manage to brush it off as I know that I am a beautiful woman, who rides hard for her man and he should be so lucky to even be with a Black woman like myself.
Anyway:
I do not know what privileges we have, however I do know that some darker skinned people do have issue when it comes to complexions, like my uncle’s wife who saw me at a family do and said that I look like a white woman in front of everybody, that was so embarrassing and upsetting as I take pride in being a women of African descent.
Another thing that I have noticed is, darkskin women who are beautiful and comfortable in their skin, do not carry this attitude, so maybe it stems from a lack of confidence rather than being based, solely on their complexion.
Love Love Love, so true. It’s a white thing that more than half of those thing even matter. Light skin blue eyes and fair hair. mix it with black and you get what is described here. and white people recognize a portion of their own. that is respected in a white (light skinned) way.
The one-drop rule is a sociological and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States asserting that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan-African ancestry (“one drop” of African blood) is considered to be black (Negro in historical terms). This concept evolved over the course of the 19th century and became codified into law in the 20th century. It was associated with the principle of “invisible blackness” and is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status.[1]
Although racial segregation was adopted legally by southern states of the former Confederacy in the late 19th century, legislators resisted defining race by law to prevent interracial marriages. In 1895 in South Carolina during discussion, George D. Tillman said,
It is a scientific fact that there is not one full-blooded Caucasian on the floor of this convention. Every member has in him a certain mixture of… colored blood…It would be a cruel injustice and the source of endless litigation, of scandal, horror, feud, and bloodshed to undertake to annul or forbid marriage for a remote, perhaps obsolete trace of Negro blood. The doors would be open to scandal, malice, and greed.[2]
The one-drop rule was not adopted as law until the 20th century: first in Tennessee in 1910 and in Virginia under the Racial Integrity Act of 1924 (following the passage of similar laws in several other states).
Before and during the centuries of slavery, people had interracial relationships, both forced and voluntary formed. In the antebellum years, free people of mixed race (free people of color) were considered legally white if individuals had up to one-eighth or one-quarter African ancestry (depending on the state).[3] Many mixed-race people were absorbed into the majority culture based simply on appearance, associations and carrying out community responsibilities. These and community acceptance were the more important factors if a person’s racial status were questioned, not his or her documented ancestry. Because of the social mobility of antebellum society in frontier areas, many people did not have documentation about their ancestors.
Based on DNA and historical evidence, Thomas Jefferson is widely believed to have fathered the six mixed-race children of his slave Sally Hemings; four survived to adulthood. Hemings was three-quarters white by ancestry and a half sister of the late Martha Wayles Jefferson.[quote 1] Their children were born into slavery because of her status; as they were seven-eighths European in ancestry, they were legally white under Virginia law of the time.[4] Jefferson allowed the two oldest to escape in 1822 (freeing them legally would have been a public action which he avoided); the two youngest he freed in his 1826 will. Three of the four entered white society as adults, and all their descendants identified as white.[4]
In the United States, European Americans usually classified people of partial American Indian descent as Indian, in a similar example of hypodescent. In the early years of these types of unions and marriages, the fathers were usually white and the mothers Indian. As many American Indian tribes had matrilineal descent systems, within those communities, the children were considered by tradition to belong to the mother’s clan. It was tradition for the mother’s eldest brother to play a major role in the life of all her children, more important than that of the father within the tribe. Only the maternal blood relationship was important and the uncle looked out for the children within his clan. The father belonged to a different clan or sometimes different nationality. Among such tribes, mixed-race children could be absorbed into the culture, as had been the case traditionally with captives of any race, who were adopted.
But, among other tribes who had a patrilineal system, such as the Omaha, the full-bloods considered a half-breed a “white man” if he had a white father, which was their application of hypodescent. Half-breeds born to an Omaha mother could belong officially to the Omaha tribe only if they were formally adopted into it by a male member.[note 1]
You basically said it! I didn’t want to attack her little list - but I do agree that most of it is also subjective and listing something like -someone telling you’re better because you’re light skin- as a privilege reduces its credibility significantly. I also like that you changed it from privilege to “advantage” . Cause these things aren’t “privileges” ..
However - I never thought I was considered attractive because I was light skin - I’m just HOT! (LMAO..JK) -but come on .. You mean it has nothing to do with my face- height - body type - the way I carry and present myself?? *RATS* had I known I would have just rolled out the bed and gone to work! cause - being light skin covers everything else!.
these are men we’re talking about here - and I think we need to be careful in assuming we know what they like ! - This is said though with cognizance that some men have stated that they prefer ” light skin” girls or from their track record appear to have a type.
your list makes a lot of sense as well but - if you’re having luck in the love department don’t assume its cause you’re light skin - cause I know a lot of light skin chicks who are lonely or can’t find a spouse. So its all subjective - all in all we just need to be careful with the grouping each other.
I don’t consider you black though - *sigh* hear me out- one parent is white - one parent is black - if you’re not white then you’re not black - you are “bi-racial ” or ” of mixed heritage” - if you choose to call yourself black then thats your personal choice , but you should also be able to call your self white ! no?
I know bi-racial people who struggle with identity placement ! its not fair to you guys that you HAVE to pick a side! you should be just as proud of your white heritage as you are of your black heritage.
About 70% of these privileges listed are trivial. The hair stuff is just stupid. I get asked all the time if “that’s your real hair? ” “is all that yours? ”
About hollywood, there needs to be more black producers and film makers (as well as authors). That is the only solution to inequality in movies. So, yes, the fairskinned ethnic women or those with eeuropean features appear to be favored in movies because the movie making people prefer it. It is not a privilege unless you are an actress. I benefit nothing from the whorish and inferior roles played by light skinned blacks.
Last, like black men in certain government agencies are favored over all black women (all shades) a black man inauthority can still help along a woman of color get ahead where white men avoid her like the flu due to stereotypes.
Here’s my list of privileges and setbacks from my own experience being light skinned (and I’m 1/2 whit to be technical) :
Advantages/disadvantages:
1) A - Black men find you very attractive (in general) and itvis not hard to get a mate
1) D - White men think you’re easy and associate all the negative stereotypes that please their fantasies but will rarely want to take youbon a proper date (this is changing, however, as interracial dating is becoming more accessible.
D2 - The blantant attention you get from black men by nature of something you cannot control can inspire envy and division among your soul sisters (other black women), despite that you are not not seeking attention.
2) A - Other cultures and races seem at ease with you. If you were raised by a white parent you easily express norms urban blacks, or those with little exposure to european culture, are amis to.
3) D - Being told you are not a real black person. This is very mean and racist. It has come from (on a few occasions) people who share my race and gender but are darker than me, and whites. No one else has challenged how I see myself. My husband is a black man and he refers to me as a beautiful black woman, as do all my kin.
4) D - Having overexposure of light skinned women on rap videos that are filthy and degrading. This might be why so many white men have talked to me like I am a whore.
5) A - Your physical beauty is affirmed by complements.
5) D - Your worth, as with all black woman, is not visible until after you have proven yourself.
A note on #2 advantage (A). I have known 3 dark skinned women and more dark skin men than I can count that were very popular at various nearly all white organizations. The black women I knew were each individuals, of course, but in general were very, very witty, snotty to some extent but also sensitive, pretty, has traditional Christian names, and dressed and acted like their white counterparts; to include listening to rock music, loving all the chickfliks and expressing affection for their favorite white actors. Come people, let’s be honest, how many of you have really seen/known a preppy dark skinned black woman or man? They are out there and they fit in just fine and better than anyone. It is not based on complexion but on you’re comfort level with Euro culture and if that culture is a part of you or not.
I do acknowledge its existence as a ” light skin” person. However , I don’t view the items on your list as privileges.
If you are more acceptable because you are light skin - and therefore measured based on how well you stack up against white people then that is not equality and I am EQUAL.
The field slave resenting the house slave for being in the house is natural - but its a distraction from the bigger picture which IS the existence of slavery - period.
Whether you in the house serving tea and sheltered from the harsh sun - or whether you are in the field being whipped till you bleed.- its ALL slavery.
Naturally , you are inclined to pick , not being whipped as a privilege - but you are a privileged SLAVE.
Slave families were divided to weaken the chances of uprisings AND it is this division that is perpetuated today in posts like these. Perhaps you inadvertently referred to them as “privileges” - but I DO NOT consider them as such. I understand the plight of the dark skin woman - but it is generally the plight of the black race. So in that sense - I am not sure why you have painstakingly created this list, unless it is to vent about the things you have yourself experienced. Which is perfectly justifiable.
I’M LIGHT SKINNED AND PEOPLE ASSUME I’M MIXED.
ONE BLACK GUY WITH DARK SKIN SAID I’M WHITE AND LOOK + SOUND WHITE.
MY FAMILY IS LIGHT BROWN AND DARK.MY MOM’S LIGHT BROWN AND DAD’S REALLY DARK AND I DON’T GET OUT MUCH PLUS CLOSE WINDOWS IN DAY SO I’M KINDA PALE LIGHT BROWN.
I FEEL OFFENDED THOUGH WHEN PEOPLE TREAT ME BETTER THAN SOME OF MY DARK FAMILY ANS ASSUME WERE NOT RELATED 🙁
All this about light skin…lol. Well let’s go to the root, If the black so called man had defended his woman and not have allowed the white men to rape and abuse her as this what went on. There wouldnt be any lightskin atleast not to the degree as it stands. Because of his cowardice he let woman suffer this things, so from this came lighter skin considered to be part of the black race.
Rocc not so true because some people have Native American blood and are mixed with black like myself and my family has had farms since the1400 my tribe…so you cant speak for all lightskin people. Yeah thats true for the newer generation of mixed lightskin people but not people who have been here for centuries like my people. You know everybody huh.
Please Lady A, be proud
http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/03/10-richest-black-communities-america/3/
I am a bengali dark skin asian, its not unusal for my cultured people to be dark but as a girl who was born and is being raised in the uk. I have been a target if bullying and hate all due to the darkness of my skin. Which i hated my self. But as ive grown older i have now realised why i hated it so much, and this was due to the bullying and hate i was recieving from my own kind. From grown ups to children. Even till this day i get it. But i live with it as there so much i can do to defend myself.
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“I am a proud African American woman who loves to discuss issues that empower black women” is your title…then you go back and say things about light skinned women? As a dark skinned woman I believe that you are a hypocrite. You sit here and talk about white people being racist but YOU are being racist against YOUR OWN KIND. Why has the black community been divided with this “dark skin and light skin” crap. WE are all BLACK despite skin color and WE all go through the same bullshit because WE are BLACK period!!! White people don’t give a damn about how light or you are….If you’re not WHITE then you’re gonna be treated like a freaking animal ! Again I am dark skinned and I have NEVER been jealous or envious of my light skinned friends because I love myself. Bashing women who are just as black as you are is WRONG especially if you use men as an excuse. That is just plain ignorant. Men will want who they want. Stop being a hypocrite and LOVE yourself. It isn’t about spot light or wanting attention. It’s about loving each other. Open your Bibles and read ! This generation is all jacked up.
response to “anonymous”: you hit the nail on the head! it all boils down to self-esteem (or lack thereof). you clearly have it, which is why you are able to read between the lines and see the hypocrisy. it seems as if the creator of this blog has been rejected one too many times by some man, assumed it was because of her skin tone, and now anyone who doesn’t make her feel good about herself is a “colorist”. in the most basic sense, we are all colorists to some degree or another. we all (most of us, anyway) have rods and cones in our eyes which help us to distinguish color, as well as dark and light, and this has got to influence our preference for skin color.
i feel bad for dark skin women when it comes to society but when you try to tell them they shouldn’t bleach their first response your not black you dont understand being light skin comes with privileges because my boyfriend is dark and people dont talk to him when we are shopping and he is buying they look at me but here are some light skin jokes i heard from people this one is from my bf brothers baby mother brown women (in jamaica brown means light skin) brown women are nasty and dont wash their panties especially the pretty ones she said this to me this is coming from the same bitch who says she isnt black gets mad when i call her black or her child she and her boyfreind have no other mixture that is close we were talking about skin tones this light skin boy said he likes black girls because they are easier and light skin girls are stuck up bitches then she says so what you think about girls like me like she is anything but black i was just looking at her like bitch you only a few skin tone lighter than a dark skin girl o what’s even the most surprising part of this story is i found a pic of her when she was 10 years old she was dark skin her baby father rat her out saying she bleached i think she is even bleaching the poor child the lil girl face is way lighter than her body an she doesn’t go outside at all and we live in jamaica!
I see a lot of posting from light skinned women saying that dark skinned women treat them bad. I understand that we all have our own experiences but growing up, where the majority of the people are black, this wasn’t a common thing. Most dark skinned women were angry with how other people made it as if light skinned women are better than dark skinned women, especially black men (smh). Now, they did have issues w/ the light skinned women who thought they were better than dark skinned women. These ones would always point out a dark skinned women’s skin tone in a negative way by saying things like, “I’m glad I’m not dark like her”.
SOME light skinned women do get talked about for having light skin but how many are told they’re ugly b/c the tone of their skin. The jokes are usually just about the skin tone when it comes to light skinned women but when it comes to a dark skinned women, it goes beyond that. What women wants to HEAR that she is not beautiful only because of the color of her skin.
Again, everyone has there own experiences. This is just what I’ve observed as a light skinned gay man that loves his African American sisters, regardless of their skin tone.
I agree with the article and most comments. Just wanted to comment the the term African American wasn’t introduced by light skinned people not wanting to be called black. I am old enough to remember. It was introduced to help connect us to our African heritage. To give us a geographical context. To correct the erasure of our history. Jesse Jackson…want who was well-respected back then was the most visible proponent. It caught on like wildfire.
We should be focused on economically empowering ourselves and finding knowledge of self. With those two things we will love ourselves and those that look like us. Why focus on these divisions that were put in place to keep us enslaved and economically deprived. We can argue about this lightskin darkskin bullshit later. Lets get our money, wealth, power, and resources together and then talk about all this dumb shit. It;s all true but it is not going to get us off the plantation any sooner. I keep my eyes on the white supremacists and dont take my eyes of them until my people are empower and free. Fuck a skin tone….we are the original man and woman, lol!
Its seems as if white people prefer you more than black people, given the fact that you said white people never made fun of you. Why would you even wished to be dark skinned so that people who hate on your complexion can love you more. If I were you, I’d go where the love is. African American people are the cruelest, racist set of people I have ever met. Im not dark skinned, but I am not light skinned either, I am in between, and Ive had a white roommate told me I was not as dark as the black people where she came from, this was my biggest culture shock when I came to America for college(I was raised in The Bahamas). And for everyone who are talking about white people sees all black people the same, you have no idea, white folks does know the difference in skin complexion, why did you think the light skinned black slaves never went into the fields, they were always the house slaves, and the original dark skinned blacks were field slave. Think about it. Go where the live is, and marry the ones who doesn’t make fun of your skin tone.
This is actually not true. Both light skinned and dark skinned were on the fields even mestizos. & you had dark skinned and light skinned house Negros. Many times half breed babies were killed for being an “abomination” by the white male slave master as a matter of fact.
A few of these are things that I can’t understand how they’re “privileges,” and a few are things that I’m not sure how you’d even observe. Many are things that don’t really seem true most of the time and/or can apply for all blacks.
Some of the examples that are not privileges to me:
Being called Black based on the antebellum era one drop rule.
If you are a light skin Latino it is automatically assumed that you speak Spanish.
Your skin color being valued by some who purposely wants to erase their ethnicity and hates their own skin color.
Because of your light skin your relatives may of have had access to Black sororities, fraternities, and other organizations that promoted intraracism.
And you could argue about the stuff related to racial ambiguity and being mixed, as sometimes being racially ambitious or mixed brings its own kind of ridicule (I had an ex who experienced this growing up, as did her sisters).
When exactly have you observed, for example:
You have better opportunities for education and jobs prospects.
You have a better chance of landing a job than a darker person with the same credentials.
Now, I didn’t click in the links to studies or anything, but if there are actual studies saying this, okay.
Finally, some of the stuff that doesn’t seem true:
Being standard of beauty in the Black and Latino community. -The standard of “beauty,” assuming this is referring to women, in these communities is-tada-white women. Light-skinned women might be 2nd, but these men still prefer white women to ALL of us.
Can color, dye, relax, or weave your hair without it being seen as an act of self-hate.-Most black women deal with this, regardless of skin color. Every article out there about this stuff being “self-hate” is directed towards “black women” and does not say a thing about “dark-skinned black women.” The only thing I do is relax my hair, and I can’t stand having people telling me I should “go natural.” Mind your own business.
It is assumed that you are race neutral when issues of race are raised.-Have never had this happen, nor have I seen it with other light-skinned blacks.
BBG,
I’m not sure how I found your article.. the joys of web surfing.. but I read it, as I’m a white guy who has had two (supermodel gorgeous!) black girlfriends, and of course that experience opened my eyes to a whole world of social issues to which I had not previously been exposed . My experiences, however, were nothing like you describe. Background: I’m college educated, considered good looking, middle class, military background, IT field. I’ve had two amazing, loving(!), exciting relationship with VERY dark skinned black women. Complexion that does justice to the label ‘black’. One was African America, the other from Trinidad roots. I had never previously been attracted to ‘Black’ women, i.e., African American women, because I had found through personal experience that the popular negative stereotypes were all that I ever experienced as well (personally): IN GENERAL: loud, rude, bad attitudes, often incomprehensible ‘ebonics’ and for those I met in professional environment, seemingly on power trips. Those aren’t qualities that attract men of any race. But about privilege — my girlfriends were doing extremely well professionally. It had nothing to do with their skin color, except that an argument could me made that affirmative action culture helped them, if anything. But they needed no help. Both were highly intelligent, capable… but also feminine, and sorry but I have to say the opposite of the African American Female personality stereotype: they were both soft spoken, spoke standard american english; a little reserved, classy in appearance and attire; both were smart and well-read enough to talk about almost any subject, and neither were obsessed with race, ‘black history’, or issues of privilege, but yes, they both did mention more than once about the light skinned-dark skinned issues that they had experienced IN THEIR OWN BLACK COMMUNITY. This was not an issue in the larger , mixed (you can’t really say ‘White America’, this is 2015, America is hyper mixed racially!) . My white and other (Asian, Indian, Latino) friends and family accepted them completely. On the other hand, the same can’t be said for their circles of friends and families (for the most part) about me.. not very accepting at all, and totally based on race. So which way was the racism flowing…. we all know the answer. OK, Sorry — the only group that made an issue of their dark black skin was other blacks, and of that, mostly African American women. They had both had bad experiences with African American men. One of them actually horrible experiences. On the other hand, BOTH told me, as I wasn’t their first White boyfriend, that they had never felt as valued, adored, and made to feel as beautiful as with their white boyfriends. One of the reasons I’m telling you this is because I continue to see nearly every mention of ‘colorism’ attributed to white racism. I’m telling you — this exists, but in America 2015, it’s insignificant, in my opinion. Please get with the times and let’s be intellectually honest about where this ‘colorism’ is manifesting TODAY .. in their own communities of color. White men and men of other races are dating and marrying black (i.e., of African descent) women in amazing numbers. I won’t go on in this response about what I find attractive about Black women (although I will if asked) but there you have it. And it’s not just very dark skinned African American, or African women. There are people with ‘black’ skin around the globe, anywhere people have lived near the equator for generations. India — amazingly beautiful ‘Caucasian’ women with Black skin.. Their own cultures devalue them, but surprisingly, men from other cultures/races find them irresistibly beautiful and highly desirably. This colorism , as I’ve observed, is overwhelmingly a phenomenon of other black people, sadly. White men are dying to meet black women. And in fact, it’s so easy because most of the kind of educated, classy black with with high self esteem know the score, and seem to be very open. They’ve moved beyond this ‘legacy of white racism’ stuff that is poisoning minds with obsessions of racial and social injustices. It’s 2015! I’m sure I’ve angered some. I welcome responses. I admit, it’s just my experience and I may be wrong about some things. Let me tell what I’m NOT wrong about. White guys love black women of any skin tone, and for those of you who can leave the racial baggage of the past behind, you’ll easily find your prince, and won’t believe how adored and loved he’s going to make you feel.
FYI, people, that “one drop Black” crap was outlawed back in 1967 by the Supreme Court in a decision called “Loving v. Virginia” so get the hell over it, already.
I grew up hated because im light skin. On both sides. I don’t want to hear it I don’t feal for dark skins they all made my life a living hell in grade school.
We get double hate from white and black.. Which is why today I tend to lean towards Latinas. I’m Cherokee and black. So I’m not even half white.
I can remember vividly so excuse me when I say it’s your problem get over it.
Stop crying and being pitiful that what I learned. Maybe you can teach that.
My grandmother, my father’s mother, was creole, white as the walls, with jet black fine hair, she could have easily passed for italian, but never did.. She instead grew up caught between worlds, admired and resented by black folks, subjectified, and ostracized by whites.. My mother is light yellow, with green eyes, she grew up in east st, louis in the 1950s, she was bullied and teased mercilessly in school and had to grow up to be twice as stronger than her black classmates because she had to fight on both sides of the spectrum.. She was chosen my father because he only preferred mixed, or white women.. I grew up self conscious of black men, because i believed they only preferred me for my tone, and hair .. Remembering how awful my father talked down about dark skin women…
So no, we all have our battles to face, from other people, and from within. I do take slight offense when black people confront me about this so called privilege i have.. I didn’t grow up with privilege, i grew up black.. It’s a terrible thing to be denied by your own people because of their insecurities, all started by the same group that pit us against one another… I’m still black regarding the rest of the world, but my own people.. Let me tell you , it sucks..
It seems like light skin people are always getting put down when it comes to colorism. “Privileges light skinned blacks have” really? This whole article is just about what dark skins don’t have. Darker skinned people always act like the victim yall aren’t the only ones who suffer from this stupid colorism topic. All of us get hate. Light skins get hate from other blacks, and dark skins get hate from white people. So where is the benefit of being “light skinned?”. This is just another form of racism but between our own race. It’s sad white people dont run around saying team tan or team pale, like it’s just ridiculous. There will never be equality on this earth, people try to act like one day everyone will be equal it will never happen! Because there will always be one ignorant person. We will always be placed in groups it’s the way the society of the world works. The government is always trying to group people, that’s why they ask what race we are on forms (black, white, Latino or other) they don’t ask (light skin, dark skin, pale, or tan) it’s completely ridiculous.
im dark and i need help ive been all on the internet i need help and im 10
As a light-skinned black female, I respect your post. It has been my experience that many of the listed “privileges” are true, especially the ones that relate to beauty. I wish that it wasn’t this way; I know many strikingly beautiful women who are dark, medium and light toned. However, some of them aren’t true at all. And I guess I say this because many people assume that light-skinned black women do not face any issues when it comes to race. I attended a predominately white high school, graduate school and I work in a predominately white school district and in every last one of those experiences, I can truly say that many white people view and treat light-skinned blacks in the same exact way they view and treat dark-skinned blacks.
I think that colorism is definitely a real thing but it really exists primarily within the Black community. Many white people don’t feel that you’re really black but that doesn’t come with any advantages! They don’t see you as one of them, they don’t respect you any more or think you are any more capable or intelligent than any other black person. You are constantly questioned and second guessed when it comes to your capabilities as a professional. They make it very clear to you that you are black. I do want to make clear that when I say “they,” I say it cautiously because every white American does not hold to these beliefs or operate in this way. There are members of black and white communities that don’t live their lives based upon racism, colorism, or any other –ism that exists.
The last thing I will say is that I have endured so much criticism and hate because of my skin color. I have been ostracized, judged, called all types of names, etc. My skin color has not caused me to have a permanent privileged mentality or outlook; in some ways it had made me feel very insecure. Some women assume that I think I’m better than them, prettier than them, more attractive than them. I find myself never wanting to look “too good” as to not draw any more attention to myself. I don’t say that to negate the privileges that you speak of or to take the attention off of the criticism and hatred that dark-skinned and brown-skinned women have endured and continue to endure. I admit that there are unique challenges. But I think that if we are to truly move forward, we have to accept and recognize the perspectives of all black women who are affected by colorism.
And Just Like Lady A…You Are Ignorant As Well. I’m Light Skinned Almost The Color Of Halle Berry And I Am 100% BLACK baby and I’m proud. People like you think you know everything when in reality you know nothing. Ignorance must be your best friend. Oy Vey DO YOUR RESEARCH
If you honestly believe that there is no such thing as a light skinned black person the you are a complete nut case. What… did you test every light skinned persons blood to see if they are mixed? TUH Exactly So You Know Nothing More Than A Damn Vegetable. Get your Facts Right. And if there is no such thing as a light skinned black person then why was this whole blog created about the issues WITHIN THE BLACKBERRY COMMUNITY? Exactly.
Deep article.
wow, it’s crazy you think this in 2015. i am light skin and some things you say or true with the mixed questions or being call red bone by my people light bright,yella girl.etc……./ which i always hated,, but as far as getting better jobs are having it better is so not true anymore.
At my job which i work for the civil servant industry there are plenty of dark skin people who have it made and are very smart. They have the most high level positions maybe they do work harder and kiss a little bit more as………. but they are successful more then light skins. Maybe us light skins or rebels too i know i am.
i still think black is black no matter what color and the other races still see you as a threat no matter what complexion you are if they know you are black.
am light skinned and am 100% east african.
“Being called Black based on the antebellum era one drop rule.”
This is a privilege? Wait. What? Unless I’m mistaken being black in the US sucks balls.
I guess I should feel sorry fo’ all dem poor white folks who don’t get to be black.
This article inspired me to create a blog about colorism, and how, as a pale AA girl born to dark AA parents, it has affected me positively and negatively.
I even made a post showing which of the things in your article were awarded to me as Light privileges.
For the record I speak out very strongly against it, but for some of you it may be an interesting read.
Here it is below:
http://www.knowdifference.tumblr.com
I would love to hear your thoughts.
To the person who wrote this article:
Can you name some privileges that dark skinned blacks have that light skinned blacks don’t have. Focusing on the positive always helped me when I have self esteem needs.You probably haven’t taken the time to think about them because you are so focused on pushing the blame for your hurt on someone else. A group that has your back probably more than anyone else! You seem to blame light skin people (specifically the women) for the ignorant comments and cruel experiences you’ve had in life regarding your own skin color and you want them to be accepting of that blame as if they had a choice to be light or dark skinned or to share/change the experiences that you have had. I am not opposed to having a conversation about color, but color is not just dark skinned black. You are trying to silence the voice of your light skinned sisters because of the injustices that you have experienced. All dark skinned blacks have not been oppressed nor do they think your list of perceived “light skinned privileges” are true. .A privilege is only a privilege to those who attach value to it. The things you listed as privileges are not necessarily considered privileges to all people. You have no doubt experienced injustices because of your skin color. I believe you and sympathize with your feelings, But know this, for every insensitive comment, or cruel joke that you can remember experiencing, there are light skinned girls/women who have had a similar experience.
I never knew about this … I study history as a minor and as far as I know we were all killed tortured and enslaved at the hands of the same oppressors regardless of how “light skinned” we were, yes the so called “Latinas” too. So some of this is a surprise to me. Anyways maybe you guys can help me out. I got to this forum some how from googling “black girls don’t like black GUYS” Because of my tough time finding a good *dark skinned* black girl. I like black women but in my experience they seem to b very angry. I was dating one and she always referred to me as light skinned (im not) & was very easily offended and hated doing anything for me, like fixing me a glass of water was some how degrading to her. I love the way black women look especially really thick and dark with long natural hair and a big butt, and bonus if she has an accent. But for some reason they seem to give me such a hard time… White girls, Indian girls no problem. But dark skinned black girls seem so hard to get and satisfy. I am no ugly I am smart, I have good traits over all. I don’t know what the problem is. Any tips?
EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE “WILLIE LYNCH LETTER” LIGHT SKIN, LATINO, CREOLE, WEST INDIAN, AFRICAN AMERICAN, SO ON AND SO FORTH ARE ALL TERMS USED TO KEEP US IN DIVISION. After reading these comments I see the powers that be did a good with their brainwashing.
All this constant talk about skin color differences reflects the mental health/mental illness issues lurking in the black community. Just like the high rates of black on black crime its the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. Dark skinned blacks obsess about light skin black privilege constantly. Darker skinned blacks need to get out and have a life. Stop assuming there is always an agenda in regards to race and color and privilege. The light skinned couple you see next time at a restaurant may not have gotten the good table because they are light skinned it might be because most restaurants seat people according to which server should get the next table so they can work that night and eat and pay bills. Grow up Negroes get over yourself and others in your race. Also note to most light skinned folks we need to consider demanding a mixed race category now while Obama is still in. Most blacks have turned on us since Obama has been in office and don’t really like us anyway. Let’s leave the ranks and leave them on their own and see how they like it and survive with out us.
I agree most lighter skinned bi-racials should leave the black race. Blacks have gotten really nasty to lighter skinned folks lately especially black women. Leave them on their own. Every century a group of light skinned folks leaves the race and passes for other it is reflected in the Census. This might be a good time to go. Let them try to elect the next president who will take care of their needs with out us on the books or at the table. Since they don’t want to deal with us and don’t think of us as “really black” let them deal with the political ramifications of that reality as well. There are consequences to reversed color ism where dark skinned blacks constantly beat up on light skinned folks.
This is a disgusting post. You are envious of the lightskin persons. Did you forget that our lighterskinned people bleed too? Die too? Lose family too? Loose children too? Get cancer too? Instead of focusing on how wrong the situation is, you focus on the person who did not create this situation. You are a very sick and scary person and you need to pray and ask for forgiveness because you know what, this world is not fair! You have advantages others dont have. You are blessed with beautiful dark skin. Focus on making THE WORLD better instead of making your situation only better. This is harsh but you will be called a beautiful person for it. Looks will fade but a beautiful heart shines even through old age :). Life is not fair but we are also not always fair. Be humble and you will be blessed. If you keep your neck stiff in this you will face the shame.
So you are OK with colorism?
I agree with all of these.
I also believe there are quite a few dark-skinned privileges that light skinned people do not have including but not limited to:
1) Feeling the love from your own brothers and sisters.
2) Having no one question your blackness.
3) Being accepted — truly accepted — by the black girls or black boys at school.
4) Experience what it is like to truly know a man (or woman) loves you for you, and not the light-skin you “bring to the table.”
5) Never having people decide they “can’t stand light-skinned” blacks any more and tell them, on social media, everywhere, to “get out of my race.”
6) Going out with to a movie with dark-skinned friends you consider your “sisters” or “brothers” and suddenly finding yourself in an emotional conversation over the fact that a light-skinned character was portrayed as the love interest, hero, etc.
7) Having your entire race routinely contend that light-skinned black folks “think they are better” when you have witnessed countless medium brown-skinned black call people a shade darker than them “ugly,” “too black,” “just not cute” when you have never seen or heard a fair-skinned black do the same.
8) Forever coming across article like this that reveal that many of the people you consider your people actually do not have that much love for you because of the color into which you were born.
So everyone has priveleges. Win win.
Amen.
So if i dont believe what you say Im a colorist???? Hmm well excuse me i dont believe what you say and i aint colorist at all! Dark skinned black women have been taking out their frustration and anger on “light skinned” women for yearssss! How dare any of yall try to say we got it easier!!! Shit at least yall get accepted if your fully black your “in” with the black crowd if your fully white your “in” with the white crowd and so on and so forth. Mixed women dont get accepted in we get told oh your too light to be black but oh your too dark to be white!! We have it worse because many races hate us for being mixed with their race!! My whole life (no offense to anyone btw) growing up going to school was my hardest time in life. I was picked on by dark skinned girls FOR BEING LIGHT SKINNED!! And it only got worse once i hit high school!! Ecerybody try to blame this shit on us like oh we got it good yall dont know how it is for dark skinned women and blah blah blah well i say fuck that and fuck anybody who really honestly believes that you got it harder than one woman because your darker than her! Fuck outta here with that bullshit hard times and struggles have no race prefence if your parents didnt do what they had to do for you to have a good lofe thats on them didnt nobody bring you where you are today but you didnt nobody put yu in the struggle besides your own blood family blame them of yu have a hard life not other women who you do not even know!!!
This crazy lady has it all wrong. The reason why whites and mixed people tend to get along better is because mixed people don’t tend to get in our faces with race-baiting bullshit, the end. I will go further as to say if you hate mixed people so much whooptie fricken do we will accept em.
This post was done in unfortunately poor tact. It’s not lightskinned people’s fault they are light, nor did they create this oppressive value’s system that discriminates against darkskinned people within black culture. It is their own fault “Darkskinned people” for dealing in blame and guilt, instead being who you TRULY ARE and that’s Godly people and ‘indirectly’ changing Colorism.
Forgive and MOVE ON…
LIVE AND LET LIVE….
1000%!!!!!! Thank you so much for this truism. . . It is definitely needed!!!
As a white man married to a light skin woman I found this article is very typical in my experience. We’ll go to a wedding and dark skinned women shun and mock her even though they are strangers. We go to her class reunion it’s the same. It’s obvious jealousy. I have no idea why? There are so many dark skin beauties out there and while my wife is very beautiful it is her features that make her so not her complexion. This article is completely transparent and utter bull@#$t. My wife experience racism coming and going from people like this author. Frankly I find your attitude to be unattractive and perhaps that’s your problem? Next time try showing some class and confidence and see how that works out for you instead of being jealous and hateful for whatever reasons. Haters are very obvious. Keep that in mind next time you open your mouth or write some horse#$t like this.
I just have itching to say!this article is divisive and plays directly into the hands of the controller of this society! Divide and conquer is an age old strategy used to destroy races of peoples! Read the Willie Lynch letter! I’m aware that some might not believe that the Willie Lynch letter is a true document! The science contained in the document is real though! Also I would urge everyone to read the Protocols for the Learned elders of Zion! The science is real there also! Lastly two of the most so-called, “threatening” black men to ever walk the streets anywhere in the United States were the Legendary Malcolm X, and Huey P. Newton of the Black Panther Party! Both light-skinned men that gave their lives fighting for the freedom of black people! Angela Davis was also another strong Light-skinned Black sister that fought for the freedom of Black people! So the author of this article sounds like they have a lot of personal baggage to deal with! Black people come in many shades and none is better than the other! Unity,and community and love of self and the unwavering embrace of all thing black is the only way out of the mess we are in! I am a light skinned black male and I face discrimination the same as my darker brothers! Wake up and stop working against the black race which happens to be diverse as the stars that peacefully share the night sky! Understand that division amongst the ranks is self defeatist in nature and counter productive in a time when young black women and men both light and dark skinned are being shot down in the streets by police! Wake up and see that division is what the mind controlling elite class likes to see!
If you have the privelege, then speak up for the non-priveleged. One collective voice, saying the same thing is louder than each individual speaking of their own experiences. When we have less respect for our own lives, how do we expect others to respect us. It’s starts in the black community (all kinds of black)……but who am I kidding? We praise Lil Wayne, hail ASAP Rocky, Applaud the Game…..we emulate the Thug Life, aspire to be like the basketball “wives” on TV that are so utterly classless ….so…..I’m gonna say with the confidence of a thousand Kings… “change ain’t coming any time soon”
Why is everyone so hung up on race here? Everyone here is either saying they are proud of their race or they are discriminated because of it. Really the way I see it is that the human race as a whole needs to intellectually and culturally move past these barbaric and outdated ideas and theories of race, color, and creed. There are only three things in Nature that create patterns: self-assembly (force fields pulling things together), differential placement (an external force grouping things in a non-random fashion), and level of agitation (temperatures above 0 degrees K). We need to see each other for what we all are, human instead of following our biological nature to use differential placement to divide ourselves into these categories that divide and displace us. According to the definitions of society I am a Caucasian Male, but in reality I’m just a human being like the rest of you.
Personally, I think there’s enough hurt to go around no matter yo’ ‘color’, if U black.
At least if U’re dark-like my Mom was, you’ll never suffer being told a man is with you ’cause’ “you’re the closest” he’ll “ever get to white”. This was in the South quite a few years ago when I was much younger and the statement totally crushed me and made me feel (tho I was at my prettiest & shapeliest) like less than nothing.
I actually long to be closer to my Mom’s complexion. I read once in the late 60s, early 70s I think about a girl that took a medicine that darkened her skin color; it didn’t kill her; anyone can point me toward it I’d be so grateful; I’ve misplaced the article with the facts.
I struggle to believe that this post is actually written by a black person at all. The level of ignorance completely blows me away; however, as I reread the article, I’m certain someone black has written this. What brings me to that conclusion is that many of the thirty entries are assumptions based on nothing more than a skewed perspective. Entries such as, “People automatically assuming you are mixed” and “People not making the assumption that you grew up poor unlike your dark skin counterparts” speaks more to the internal issues of the writer instead of the light skinned girl. Who exactly are the people you are speaking of? Other dark skinned girls? Have you surfaced this information from research of some kind or just your personal perspective?
The real issue here is an internal hatred instilled by slave masters first, and perpetuated by racist media now. With all that is going on in the black community it is a shame of epic proportions that we as a people propagate this type of thinking. Unfortunately, it helps me understand why my light-skinned mother and sister felt compelled to be extremely pro-black and were no joke. They have encountered this type of ignorance for far too long. My crazy sister has kicked plenty of ass in her day and I now get why she has felt compelled to do so. She has surprised more than her share of sisters who made the thirty assumptions you have made. Because the issue is that many of those assumptions you made inadvertently attribute that light skinned girls are soft too.
I will conclude with a truth that will certainly offend. Why is it that the only people in the black community talking about colorism are dark skin girls? You suggest that, “If we really care about Black unity we will focus on the topics that divide us and yes, colorism is one of them.” The only people causing this divide are dark girls so start first with you. So being the brother that I am I have to ask – why do dark girls make all of these assumptions about light girls before you have even met them? What is the real reason for this?
AMEN, and don’t be lighter skin with REAL green eyes like my sister and I or even like my sister, very light skin with green eyes and long blondish ruddy brown hair……..the hate we get from darker skin women is real…..how about the reverse hatred..the hatred toward lighter skin women for being lighter by no choice of their own…..? I made all of my friends darker skin to continually prove how black and down I am…..FOR YEARS…..we’re all black….and to the Latino community..please stop speaking to me in Spanish, I actually speak FRENCH
@ Douglas
Because dark skin women experience colorism the most. Not only is colorism a mirror image of racism, the belief that dark skin people are inferior and subhuman, but it also has elements in it that are gender specific.
Being dark with broad features have been socially constructed to define masculinity/manly.
Whereas being light skin with narrow features or sometimes even full features, (think Rihanna) is often associated with femininity/womanly.
This type of belief system is across borders, in every culture of color. But it affects dark skin black women the most.
So of course dark skin women are going to be the main one’s speaking out about it, they suffer the brunt of every aspect of colorism.
All of the studies, examples and proof that support colorism and skin tone privilege and those who benefit from it still want to walk around with dark shades on as if it doesn’t exist.
And I saw your last comment @douglas, the only platform of ignorance is you and that other person going back and forth about how ” Dark skins be hatin on you cause you got green eyes and good light color hair”. That’s the definition of a privileged person taunting their privilege in the faces of others and then crying wolf.
The fear light skin individuals have with being associated with colorism is proof colorism exists.
As like the fear white people have of becoming minorities, because that just further proves mistreat of minorities through racism exists. See the resemblance in reactions.
#checkyourprivilege
Change your Mind … Change Your Life!!!
What if your Mind is the #1 creative factor in your life ?
…. and what if NO ONE BUT YOU can control the contents of your Mind?
Do you want to fill your mind with reasons that you *can’t* succeed and be fulfilled
…. or with reasons that you Can?
I guess it’s your choice 🙂
I won’t begrudge you clinging to your tried and true scapegoat (“the White People made me this way”)
But I think you are much stronger, more powerful, brilliant, beautiful, capable … (The list goes on and on) …. than that.
But then again, that’s only what *I* think
😉
Blessings
The birth of colorism started back from Greece by a philosopher named Aristotle. His idea of whiteness is beautiful from a meteorology theory toward everything on this planet. The foundation like racism, colorism and other tentacles to support the ancient system upon humanity.
Privilege is real. You could tell if the provilege is huge amount angry comments toward the bitter truth that break the illusion into reality.
You could see everyday…
The birth of colorism started back from Greece by a philosopher named Aristotle. His idea of whiteness is beautiful from a meteorology theory toward everything on this planet. The foundation like racism, colorism and other tentacles to support the ancient system upon humanity.
Privilege is real. You could tell if the provilege cause huge amount angry comments toward the bitter truth that break the illusion into reality.
You could see everyday…
#20 is bullsh*t!! In private sector NEW YORK CITY!! A strong, bald articulate black man will get hired over just as qualified light skinned me. Dark folks think it’s all about the skin when HAIR plays a major part. If you’re light and nappy, you get no love unless you are relaxed and Remi down. Period, point blank. Not all light skinned blacks have 2A, B, or C hair. Those of us who don’t “pass” get sh*t from all angles…blacks treat us poorly (I guess assuming they have to make up for the privilige they assume we have) and whites treat us poorly…oh, don’t speak better english than their kids cause they’ll be quick to let you know how not white you are. If you are dark skinned, please DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ASSESS OR SPEAK UP FOR WHAT LIGHT SKINNED WOMEN EXPERIENCE!!! Unless you’ve done some sort of study and poll, then you’re just flapping your gums about the grass you THINK is greener. FOH
Wait, wait. Light skin as in Lil Mama light skin or light skin as in Alisha Keys light skin? In other words, are we talking golden oreos that look exactly like other oreos just different color or are talking a whole nother cookie with different features AND skin tones? Because I assure you, the former isn’t much different than darker blacks in terms of treatment by other races. Only first generation mixes that look significantly white or other get these privileges.
Either way — THERE IS NO SUCH THING
AS a ‘LIGHT-Skinned BLACK’ person — and
many Blacks truly just need to STOP always
racially-kidnapping Mixed-Race people into the
Black-Race group — only to THEN turn-around
and start whining about “colorism” afterward. =)
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Dear white person,
Your comment added absolutely NO value to the dialouge happening below.
Your ignorance and sheer audacity of the comment is blasphemous. Rather than read the countless experiences posted here by LIGHT SKINNED BLACKS WITH AFRICAN ANCESTRY, you just decide to say we don´t exist, and link some bogus BLOG?? I almost have to laugh. Absolutely pathetic. You realize your ´theory´(an unproven idea) is nothing more than just that?-A conspiracy theory?? I have never seen a person from Botswana, or Venezuela, but I sure as hell know they exist!
***PLEASE don´t ever again mistake sheer ignorance with knowledge…
The world is better off for it.
First of all let me say, I found what you find as privileges to be disgusting and I find this entire post offensive. As a light skinned and black and proud woman unless you carry our skin tone you have NO right to sit there and assume what our “privileges” are unless you walk in our shoes. The fact that you found those 30 things to be “belt notch” worthy goes to show you are like so many other people who are a cancer to the improvement of the black race. Light skinned people were in the house as slaves yes, but the women were raped and sold just like everyone else and we were ALL slaves in that time. Not only that slavery is over. Also, lighter women aren’t seen as slaves in the media but as jezebels and temptresses. We are portrayed as weaker. Look at every Tyler Perry film ever or Empire and Anika. Considered mixed is a good thing ? To who? Our own people that claim black comes in different shades doesn’t acknowledge out blackness. It is acknowledged only when darker people have light family because they want to people to know that their family isn’t all dark but not to other light people. White people don’t EVER say we are pretty for a light girl to them we are all black the skin tone doesn’t matter. Because to them we are the products of a taboo relationship. We are more likely to be beaten up by dark skinned girls who are jealous of our eyes, hair, and skin color. We have to watch out for black men who want us because we are light and can make “mixed” babies and white men who want us for jungle fever experiences. But how dare you call it privilege? We can get Latino scholarships and be treated better in the Latino community ha ! If your hair isn’t straight or you look more European you are black to them too just with light skin. I’m half Afro-Latina so I know what I’m talking about. Not only that you cannot pass if you’re light skinned and black and cannot prove Latino ancestry. Redbone is a good thing ? Lol all it does is separate us and stupid people like you fall into the trap. Sounds to me like someone isn’t as proud as they lead on to be. Because if you were you wouldn’t even have taken the time out to type some garbage like that. I don’t agree with anything you had to say. But as a light skinned woman I’ve had to learn that women like you I cannot stress. You want lighter people to feel badly because we don’t have darker skin you need someone to reassure you that you are beautiful 24/7. And wanna hate on lighter people because it is our skin you so envy. Humph if you were light you wouldn’t even type something as ignorant as this. All the black and beautiful campaigns are geared toward brown and darker women and you still complain. You still want to have looser curl patterns lighter hair and eyes. You disgust me and you need to search with in yourself to find your own beauty and stop tearing down other women because you are uncomfortable with yourself deadass.
Nothing you said was empowering. And to your ignorant sorority comment I attend college and have actually been kept out of black sororities because of my color because they want darker girls and vice versa for white. You’re ignorant and destructing black people with that nonsense.
I wrote a blog post responding to this post in my site dealing with color, racism, and sexism http://www.knowdifference.tumblr.com. It is the 3rd post I believe. I now also have THIS to say:
The many commenters here have made excellent and valid points. We light skinned people do get slack from all sides, but ESPECIALLY from our own people, yourself included. And it does in fact seem, just by the tone alone of the post, that you are quite unhappy with yourself as a dark-skinned African Amercian woman with African features. . . THIS IS NOT OUR FAULT. To project your anger towards the very people you should sympathize with is revolting.
You want to come across as a confident Black woman. You call yourself ¨bougie¨almost as if to disassociate with ´old regular black folk´. How prideful is that? I don´t walk around telling people I am ¨that other type of Black´!
The sheer audacity of your post and it´s contents is one of MANY problems facing our community. How can we want a colorblind society if all we see is color amongst ourselves? Shame.
As another commenter said, we lightskinned folks aren´t even seen in Black beauty/pride campaigns! I will take that even further-we aren´t seen in the media AT ALL. Count out loud the number of African Americans in the media that are lighter than Beyonce?? Oh yeah… 2: Tisha Cambell (Martin) , Hilary from Fresh Prince, or Shaggy, all of which celebs from 20 years ago that have faded away! And yet you still complain??
Before I started tanning, I had to either use the 4th lightest foundation in MAC, mix the white girl makeup with some made for Blacks or Latinas, AND YOU STILL WANT TO COMPLAIN???
How do you think WE feel when we are actually INVISIBLE?? The media doesn´t recognize us, the makeup companies don´t recognize us, the people all over the world (most ppl say I am from about 15 other countries than the US), AND OUR OWN PEOPLE?????
You can´t imagine how many FIGHTS (verbal) I have gotten in from non-blacks questioning my entire ancestry. You can´t imagine how many FIGHTS (verbal) I have gotten in from BLACKS questioning my entire ancestry!! To have someone´s essential being called out angrily like that??- That is not something I would wish on anyone.
If you can´t feel even a LITTLE empathy for your fellow brother/sister, then you need some serious help.
To meag and Bianca. Being told you’re not black looking enough is not equivalent to being seen as inferior for having dark skin. Someone say you’re stuck up is not equivalent to being considered or seen as subhuman because you have dark skin.
Being told you’re not black enough is not equivalent to being told you look too black. When people say this, they’re not coming from a place of hate, it’s coming from a place of protection of identity, something black people have been denied since the beginning of this racist system. Anything associated with whiteness was seen as more important, more valued, and more human, and that’s a hurtful past black people, especially dark skin black people reflect on.
Colorism affects dark skin black people, especially dark skin black women because it’s the belief that darker skin is inferior and subhuman. Not good enough, not pretty enough and is stereotyped in the worst way. Seen as unclean, not human, sinister and dirty.
Someone telling you, you’re not black enough is not them telling you you’re inferior, it’s them saying “I still see you as the superior one, and it makes me feel less than” you can’t fault people for feeling oppressed under a system and social structures “THAT ACTUALLY OPPRESSES THEM”. It’s like people shaming us for feeling some type of way about white people knowing good and damn well this country was built on racism.
Saying “Dark skin girls beat me up because they were jealous” is not, damn sure not equivalent to people telling dark skin women they’re ugly, unattractive, subhuman and inferior for being dark skin. No one deserves to get bullied or beat up, but you weren’t being picked on because dark skin girls thought low of you, those dark skin women still saw you as superior and privileged and it was from frustration and feeling devalued. When dark skin black women are bullied they’re not bullied just to pick on someone they’re bullied with racism and people believing they’re inferior because dark skin is seen as inferior and subhuman.
The difference in you guys stories compared to dark skin women is that you’re talking about not being extended equal likability or privilege in the white and the black community, while dark skin women are venting about experiencing racism within the black community and white society, Big difference.
And of course the blackisbeautiful campaign is most geared towards dark skin black people because they’re the one’s told they’re ugly and worthless in racist white society and their own communities. It’s like white people complaining about why there’s no white history month or whitelivesmatter. Come on now.
Lady A, thanks for the civilized rebuttal, but your dismissive tone, saying that what both Bianca and I were writing about, and COUNTLESS others like us on this forum, is rather unsettling. Instead of showing true symapthy the stuggles her, them, and I (and many other light skinned folks like us) have had, or at least even ´acknowledging them´, run to the defense-Dimissing AND equating them as inferior to what darker Blacks experience. And honestly, how does that do ANYTHING but further advance the evident intra-racism (colorism) in our community? THINK FOR A SECOND…. To say, ´We both have it bad, but WE (darker folks) have it worse… ´ you are setting up a victim mentality for which the more morally superior is the person who suffers the most. This is VERY upsetting.
How we we ever be unified if we don´t see each of our struggles (the dark and light) as BLACK STRUGGLES in general, and empathize for one another?? And if you really want to choose sides, let´s count the amount of lighter Blacks that hold lifelong grudges against darker Blacks just because, then vice versa? Let´s count the amount of lighter skinned blacks who use OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR RACE as scapegoats, compared to the darker skinned ones? Those aren´t questions you want to answer honestly. . . It won´t serve your agenda.
So feel free to pontificate about my light privileges not knowing that I WAS ONCE SURROUNDED IN THE PARK BY 2 WHITE POLICE OFFERS WHO WERE GIVING ME 3RD DEGREE FOR BEING THERE 3 MINS LATE, WHEN I HAVE SEEN MANY WHITE PPL THERE SEVERAL HOURS LATER???? So how much privilege was THAT? And let´s not forget that NOT EVER DARK SKINNED PERSON HAS LITERALLY BEEN UNNECESSARILY HARASSED BY POLICE, DENIED ACCESS TO SOMETHING, ETC…. But yet your reply seems to insinuate this. . . Which is where the phrase ¨playing the Black card¨ came from. . . So when others make Black racial politics more vocal, they are silenced instead of HEARD… Bc people like you want to use not only whites, but your OWN PEOPLE as scapegoats!
Your high horse is uncalled for. We may bleed differently, but it´s all the same blood. #Unity
People like the author need a scapegoat to boast their self-esteem. It was evident not only in the post itself, but THE TONE especially. There is a way she could have broached the subject without coming off as literally the archotype of an Angry Black Woman…or as ´hating´. But she didn´t. She wrote it in anger (clearly)…. Anyone writing such a controversial post as hers with a clear mind would have read their draft of the blog and realize the tone was way out of line and angry.
And the fact that your whole reply was merely a rebuttal, (and not a show of solidarity to what Bianca and I wrote, ) is rather telling, and reinforces what we have said about some people, like yourself, seeing Blacks like us as inferior, or with lesser Black experiences.
I own my experiences as a Black woman just as much as someone 5 shades darker. And I have a feeling Bianca would agree.
Thank you.
Bianca, let me tell you girl…the majority of house slaves that you can find pictures of were very dark. This doesn’t mean lighter skinned black women weren’t but people try to pretend all mulatto women were house slaves living the good life and the men were too except they were still out on the fields.
The black female slaves were raped to produce more slaves when the white man discovered she wasn’t reproducing on purpose!! She didn’t want to bring another child into slavery. That child turned either into a field worker or the white mistress ordered the child to be sold. If the child was a mulatto with fair skin, she turned into someone’s child sex slave. The white mistresses were powerless and resentful. What many black women fail to understand is, they are acting much like the white mistresses of the past.
The white mistress would take her anger out on the dark skinned black woman and her child out of spite.
If the white mistress was sleeping with a black male slave, she would either kill the child born or sell the child. Most times that is what really went down. Black women weren’t the ones hating on their own child regardless of the circumstance. They were often stripped of their motherhood when their own flesh and blood was sold in contempt. House slaves weren’t treated very nicely either regardless of their outfits. This whole “You are privileged” routine was created by white liberals and now everyone says it to everyone. You don’t know someone unless you know them.
The only real privileged in this country are the ones with power and money. They don’t want you to see that. Now you wanna get mad? Be mad at yourself for blindly allowing yourself to turn into the white slave owner’s wife of the past because that is exactly what this sounds like.
Why is it mostly aimed at women?
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You have made an EXCELLENT POINT here !!!
Some people — (such as the obviously-jealous
and shamelessly-whiny author of this essay) —
are under the very false-impression that others
are “obligated to feel bad” merely due to having
“racial features” that differ-from that of the whiner.
Perhaps IF these same people — (such as the
obviously-jealous and shamelessly-whiny
author of this essay) — would STOP with
the Racial-Kidnapping of other people —
THEN they would NOT experience this
alleged (so-called) “colorism” (about
which they love to constantly whine).
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Oh, Lady A.
If you want to be ‘that person,’ who’s constantly looking for reasons to keep their very own Self from having the Life She Wants
… please go on ahead!
Are you going to own the Privileges that your life circumstances (i.e. being literate, having access to clean food and water, living with enough affluence to take for granted all the luxuries that our lives afford us in the US, that MILLIONS EVEN BILLIONS of people world wide don’t have)
… and spend your Life feeling guilty for these Privileges
I doubt it.
Seems to me that if you want Light Skinned Black People to walk around feeling guilty … you should take a closer look at everything you HAVE based upon circumstances you had no control over (i.e. where you were born, what kind of schools your parents put you in, are you prettier than any other women, or naturally smarter than anyone else?)
… can any of these be chosen by another human being (anywhere on Earth) and called ‘Privileges’?
Do you want to spend your time feeling guilty about all of those?
Wouldn’t it be a better use of your time to feel grateful for all the things you DO have, and make lists about that?
Don’t make the same mistakes that others have made (i.e. creating more separation), and tell yourself that you’re ‘doing something’ about the problem.
I just want to say V, that that reply to Lady A was brilliant.(It also should apply to the author!) It was beyond logical. It´s easy to react to pathos, but if someone cannot react to sheer logic, I start to wonder the motives.
Put differently, if she can´t agree with that simple, beautiful logic you´ve provided. . . I´m pretty sure her replies merely come from a place of superiority and/or anger. (See my recent reply to her to see what I mean)
Lady A
My wish is for you to finally receive, in the most beautiful, unexpected, and soul nourishing ways, all of the Love, Visibility, Preference, Approval, Wealth, Power, Appreciation, Respect, Generosity, Kindness and Basic Decency that you feel that you, and those like you have been cheated out of in deep and scarring ways. For what feels like far to long.
Ask yourself whether you have ever seen a Dark Skinned Black Woman who was experiencing Triumph in the world - inside and out. Happy and Free, Wealthy, Creatively Alive, Emotionally Whole, Spiritually Connected, or whatever you most want to have in Life. One example is enough to prove that it’s possible.
Would you like to have that for yourself? Do you believe that you deserve it?
I do. And I want you to HAVE it.
Go into your Heart, and find that Little Dark Skinned Girl who felt so hurt by a world that just couldn’t see her. As your Loving Adult Self, wrap her in your arms, and tell her all of the things that she needed to hear:
- That she is Beauty Itself. This is beyond any concept of ‘beautiful.’
- She has Immense Power and Potential within her.
- That you Love Her
You can go through your Life and find her darkest, scariest, saddest moments, and, in your imagination, be there for her like a Protector or Guirdian Angel.
Ask your self if She deserves to have someone in her life who believes that she can be Healed and Happy … even if the World doesn’t change (because who knows how long that’s gonna take?! Do you really think you deserve to suffer until then??!).
If it’s possible for the Precious Little Girl You to heal her heart and claim her Greatest Happiest Life, and all it takes is having 1 Person Who 100% Unconditoonlly Loves Her and Believes In Her …… Are you willing to be that person?
If so, Congratulations, you’re on your way!
If not … you might be waiting forever for someone else to step up and take the job.
I know you will do what you want most.
This Blessing is Unconditional, and from my Heart.
With Love
Visuddha
A Light Skinned Black Woman
THERE IS actually NO SUCH THING AS
a so-called LIGHT-skinned BLACK person.
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I’m so glad you missed the point of my whole post 🙂
I’m even more glad that you clearly did not
read the material found in the link prior
to assuming that I missed the point.
It’s nice to know that we are both able
spread happiness in the lives of others. =D
Can we stop with the colorismthing with african americans. At the end of the day we are all of the same race and if u cant except who you are and love yourself and forget who said what about your skin tone then you will forever be insecure with yourself.
WHY do you stupid people always ASSume that EVERY BLACK person HAS TO BE one of the
‘African-Americans’?!?!?!
There are over a BILLION Blacks on the planet (nearly all of whom speak English and many of whom have the internet) and LESS THAN 1% of them are you ‘African-Americans’!
Please STOP thinking that you guys are THE ONLY Blacks on the planet or even in North America — or even that EVERY ‘Black’ issue is ALL ABOUT YOU and your group!!!
There are a LOT of Blacks on this site that are NOT African-Americans — and yet we have similar problems in OUR own Black communities as well.
Everything is NOT just about you Americans!!!
At the end of the day we are all blak and beautiful people just except who you are and forget the racist comments and Love yourself.
In the past, there may have been tension on both sides, but now, dark-skinned women are cruel toward lighter skinned women. It is at the point in which I, (Halle Berry’s tone) am afraid of women that are darker than I. Every time that I visited a dark hair dresser, I leave with two inches of my hair hacked off. Why? Because I’m lighter with longer hair and they don’t want women walking around with two things that are perceived as ‘better’.
I have noticed that overweight lighter sisters are not treated as badly because the weight makes them to be perceived as undesirable. Also, I used to be overweight and I was treated reasonably well by dark sisters until I became thin. Add in the fact that I don’t date Black men because they don’t commit and I have never given my body for you know what and gotten dumped like most Black women nor have kids out of wedlock and it is open season for lighter women like me.
I am recovering from my latest hair chop at the hands of a dark woman and I am traumatized!
I am a light skinned black woman, but I couldn’t pass for white on my palest of winter days. I would be considered racially ambiguous, however, as evidenced by the “Do you speak Spanish? question that I field a few times a year. I stopped relaxing my hair #1 because I got so tired of people asking “What are you?” (which I think is super tacky) and #2 because my daughter is brown and I didn’t want her to get it twisted and start believing that what grows naturally out of her head isn’t beautiful. I rock an Afro or an Afro puff almost exclusively and confuse the ish out of most white people. Blacks always know I’m black. I’ve never had another black person question that. They have asked if I’m mixed with something else, but they always recognize my blackness. Now, on to the colorism issue at hand. It does exist, definitely. The one thing that makes me POSITIVE about this is the surprise/horror on the faces of white people when I say or do something they consider “black”. Because of my skin tone, they expect me to be some kind of Magic Negro. I didn’t experience colorism as a kid (that I picked up on) because I didn’t grow up around whites. Black folks didn’t really get into it beyond throwing out “high yellow” every now and then. My family is every shade of brown and I have seen first hand how colorism affects my browner relatives negatively, and how it’s afforded me “passes” into the white world. I’ve gotten those passes reneged on several occasions for being non-conforming to expectations. Do I feel guilty because of colorism? Nope. Im not perpetuating it, nor did I ask to be born light. It’s a problem that has to be recognized and eradicated, because I’m really tired of the “work twice as hard to get half as far” system for the brownest of us. For the lighter tones, it’s more “work 1.75 times harder to get half as far”. Because trust me, they don’t forget your skin - just because you would’ve been a House Nigga, you were still a slave - to serve them.
THERE IS actually NO SUCH THING AS
a so-called LIGHT-skinned BLACK person.
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So the light-skinned non-mixed natives from Africa are not black? Or what about dark-skinned people who are actually mixed for that matter? Most black folk in the US are actually mixed to some degree anyway. Thats’s the dumbest crap I’ve ever read lol. Black is a race as well as an an ethicity. You can’t tell a person with black parents that was raised in a black community that they are not black. Well…I suppose you can, but good luck with them listening to you or caring about what you have to say lol. Nonsense.
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LOL — those (so-called) “Light” skinned Africans
do NOT have a “Light” skin coloring at all.
(ex. NONE of them look anything like a ‘lena
horne’ or an ‘ellen holly’ or even a ‘lisa bonet’.)
At most — they simply have a “less dark brown”
skin coloring — and even that “less dark” coloring
is entirely due to ‘endogamy’ having taken place
among the few ‘tribes’ that had some degree
of ‘non-black admixture’ both become and continually remain a part their lineage.
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As a “light skin” this has never made sense to me lol. Now granted, I am on the dark end of light naturally as a base. But anyway my skin is always changing. In the late winter I become considerably lighter and in the summer when I’m out a lot I become waaaay darker to the point I can be on the lighter end of “dark skin”. Fall and spring I’m my base tone. I’ve been made fun of for being light skinned by my darker siblings and family(I’m the lightest and both my parents are dark) AND been called burnt and crispy by my own friends and family lol. I’ve been told I MUST be mixed and not fully black….AND I’ve been told I am dark and black XD. And I don’t have narrow features either I got the nose and lips and all that, just lighter skin.
So what…my priverlage comes and goes with the seasons lol? I’m cosidered a handsome man, is it because I’m privilaged and lighter or am I not simply a handsome black man? What about all that racial profiling I’ve experienced? How A police officer pulled up onto a grass field in the middle of a park where I was sitting alone under a tree, in broad daylight to as me what I was doing there? Or how I had to fight and work harder than my white russian counter parts to get my job in the software field?*shrugs*…..I say whatever to all this nonsense. Black folks are really acting stupid. Divide and conqure working at it’s finest.
I found this article because I discovered this video on youtube title “light skin v dark skin” or something that was satire of how light skin blacks act compared to dark skin. It was something completely new to me. I knew about being made fun of for your skin or being considered more attractive, but now skin dictates a persons life style and personality? lol It was unheard of to me and no one in my life talked about skin color in that way, but come to find out this is like some major thing in the black community!? Like…the fuck? lol We need to quit that shit. There’s real racism going on and we fight amoungst ourselves over petty garbage? Yeah colorism exist no doubt, like I said I’ve felt both sides of the coin. And guess what…. light, dark and medium black folk are ALL guilty of continuing to perpetuate it.
I am a black person. I may have a lighter tone than other black people, but I am still black. To a white person, I am black or mixed race, I am still not being classed as white, despite my lighter complexion; only within the black community is there such a focus on what type of black you are, whether it be yellow boned, red boned, light skinned, dark skinned or just brown.
I may be lighter in tone, but I still associate black problems as my problems, as something that relates to me, someone of colour. When someone says that they don’t find black girls attractive, I take offence in that because I am black, and I don’t identify myself as being mixed race or latina, I don’t enjoy when people mistake me for being mixed race because I am not mixed race, I am black and I am proud of being black and the heritage and culture that comes along with it .
I am within secondary education (high school) and I have had no more doors opened for me, than my darker counterpart,because of my lighter complexion.
I understand that colourism exists, I agree that it does (and I am light skinned), it may have originally been an idea imposed onto black people, from a previous era through white supremacy; however, it is the black community that is still holding onto these ideas.
Until I am being classed as a white person, I will not have the privileges that I am believed to, because of my lighter brown complexion.
BUT — having a “lightER” skin tone is NOT
the same thing as having a “light” skin tone.
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Most of these are just one sided comments without any understanding that they affect light women too. The ones I left out, I agree with or are not relevant to my situation (UK based bi-racial woman).
- Be recognized as a symbol of post racism.
Who does? By who? In which area? Do you know how much crap you have to deal with being mixed race by people who do not believe that colours should mix? Do you know how much racism and abuse is involved with that? There is white power, there is black power, there is no ‘mixed race power’. It’s not seen as a strong position.
- It is assumed that you are race neutral when issues of race are raised.
Explain how that is a privilege having to prove that you are black? You are privileged enough to not have to explain yourself or prove your identity. I have to do A LOT of explaining and then defending of myself - like i’m not even human.
- Being standard of beauty in the Black and Latino community.
This is specific to America but in the UK there is no major Latin community and the black community’s standard of beauty is not a light skinned black girl. This is also only relevant if you are actually good looking or beautiful. If you’re ugly, it’s a bigger problem (although the dark skin black girls delight in my ugliness - something I have to deal with every day).
- Being called Black based on the antebellum era one drop rule.
If this was true…So what? Why is this a problem for you? How is it a privilege?
- Being racially ambiguous.
This is not a priviledge. We are not racially ambiguous in the white community. It’s only if you’re very light and have some mix other than black (like asian) that it’s the case.
- People automatically assuming you are mixed and it is seen as a positive attribute.
No it isn’t as I said above. It’s more racism from both sides. I’m saying this as a mixed person.
- It is automatically assumed that you are more intelligent than the darker members of your racial group.
No it isn’t. At all.
- Not being seen as angry unlike the darker members of your racial group.
I can maybe agree on this but if you have both side by side I don’t know that the dark skinned woman would be seen as angrier. This is maybe more relevant to men.
- Being considered less threatening by the Eurocentric mainstream based on the color of your skin.
Which then means that people think it’s acceptable to be racially abusive and sexist because I am perceived as weak and ‘less’. This is not a privilege.
- Being allowed to recognize the variety of your racial/ethnic heritage without ridicule.
This is American specific again, i’m guessing. It’s not relevant in the UK.
- Having someone tell you that your light skin is better than dark skin.
Literally NOBODY says this. Not even covertly. In fact a white boy I spoke to then bitched about me to a black boy saying ‘I only go for girls who are proper black’.
- Can color, dye, relax, or weave your hair without it being seen as an act of self-hate.
Completely not true.
- The assumption that your relaxed hair and chemically processed curls are your natural texture.
My curls are natural but even if the above was true and my hair was chemically processed, why is this a privilege? How does this stop you achieving things in your daily life?
- Not being told that, “You are pretty for a dark skin girl.”
I’m not pretty so it’s irrelevant. You are lucky that you’re pretty. That’s a considerable privilege in society as a woman.
- Your skin color being valued by some who purposely wants to erase their ethnicity and hates their own skin color.
How is this a privilege to have someone hate themselves? It’s not something I want to see in any human being.
- You have a better chance of landing a job than a darker person with the same credentials.
I completely disagree. Because of my ethnic disambiguity, hiring me does not make a company look good compared to someone of pure racial heritage like asian. This may be of relevant in America, you’d know more than me about that.
- People who look like you rarely portray the stereotypical maid, downtrodden, Sapphire, and dysfunctional Black women roles on television.
People who look like me are not on television anywhere. Ugly women are never on TV. It’s only attractive women, regardless of colour.
- Not having people in entertainment making songs or comments disrespecting your skin color.
I agree and it’s disgusting. This is something I definitely was ignorant of until I heard some dumb rapper talking about a light skinned girl. Don’t think that LSG’s are flattered by it. But this is a sexism issue, primarily. It’s an issue of men putting women on pedestals and demonizing the women who aren’t. This is why I wish women would open their eyes to male behaviour and stop turning against each other. Open your eyes to the real culprits but I think they’re a harder target to take down so women choose the easy option - each other.
- If you are a light skin Latino it is automatically assumed that you speak Spanish.
I’m not American but can you explain why this is a privilege?
Also — someone needs to inform the woman who
wrote this article that … ‘THERE IS NO SUCH
THING AS a LIGHT Skinned BLACK person.”
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So the light-skinned non-mixed natives from Africa are not black? Or what about dark-skinned people who are actually mixed for that matter? Most black folk in the US are actually mixed to some degree anyway. That’s the dumbest crap I’ve ever read lol. Black is a race as well as an an ethicity. You can’t tell a person with black parents that was raised in a black community and dealt with the results of being black all their life that they are not black. Well…I suppose you can, but good luck with them listening to you or caring about what you have to say lol. Nonsense. Also just so you know, posting the same crap article several times does not make you opinion anymore than an opinion…an opinion not base in any really sense. You and the writer of this article have some real mental problems
LOL — if I had a dime for every time one
of your ilk tried the ‘snappy-comeback’ of
FALSELY refer to a “lesser dark” person
in Africa as having a “Light skin complexion”
— I would be even richer than Donald Trump,
There are TWO FACTS that your ilk need to
learn about this topic and they are as follows:
(1) NONE of those African tribes (ex. Igbo, etc.)
have a complexion that MOST PEOPLE in the
world (outside of Africa) would refer to as ‘light’
(ex. Who in those tribes looks like Lena Horne?)
And the people of India would fall to the ground
in hysterical-laughter at the thought of describing
these tribes as having a “light” skin coloring. XD)
(2) Geneticists have repeatedly-proven that the
“lesser-dark” skin coloring that that few African
tribes have IS the result of “ancestral admixing”
following by “generational-endogamy” -which
pretty much destroys your ‘snappy-comeback’.
THUS — once again — to repeat — THERE IS
NO SUCH THING AS a LIGHT-skinned BLACK.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat .
Some of you Blacks need to develop the dignity
that it takes to FINALLY stop with the desperate
RACIAL-KIDNAPPING of Mixed-Race people.
No other group — outside of Blacks — seems to
have such an obsession with doing such things.
Again you vannot tell a person who was birthed by black parents and has lived a black that just happened to come out “light skinned” that they are not black. That makes no damn sense lol. My step mother is full blooded Nigerian straight from Nigeria, her family is not mixed in the slightest and yet her Nephew is lighted skinned. He is very obviously African and had purely black features, he’s just light. I am the same way not “mixed”, but light with purely black features. Now, maybe you are talking super light skinned that is almost white, which we are not, we would still be dark compared to white/fair skinned races, but within black community we are considered “light skinned”. Now, If you are talking about clearly mixed individuals obviously they are not black they are mixed and most black people would agree. However saying “light skinned blacks” don’t exist is an overly broad and simply wrong statement. There are light skinned blacks, I am one of them I have been to Nigeria and seen them, we ARE African we ARE Black, and it’s too damn bad if you don’t like it, Sir.
Actually — you can — IF you
are speaking of “GENETICS”
(rather than speaking of “Identity”)
LOL — please show me a link to a photo
with your FULL BLACK-NIGERIAN
stepmom who has “Light Skin”
(i.e. Looks like Lena Horne,
Sabrina LaBeuf, Ellen Holly,
Hilda Sims, Lisa Bonet, etc.)
LOL — that is the FUNNIEST thing
that I have EVER read in my life.
Thank you — I needed that LAUGH.
Thank you once again.
YOU STATED:
“Also slight and distant admixture in the
past does not make someone “mixed” …
MY RESPONSE:
WELL … DUH !!!!
The Link Already Pointed That Out, Genius.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS — TO REPEAT -THERE IS NO SUCH
THING AS a “LIGHT-skinned BLACK person”.
Also slight and distant admixture in the past does not make someone “mixed” otherwise A loy of Whites, Indians or Asians aren’t White, Indian, or Asian either. It’s all nonsense
Also one more thing, you speak to me with this retarded assumption that I have any interest whatsoever in claiming mixed people as Black. I have no such interest and never presented myself in such a way that I do. So keep your “You blacks need to” comment for someone else, because I don’t need to do a damn thing lol. But, Perhaps you need to get a life? I’m done here.
Reading comprehension is a fundemental skill. I didn’t say my stepmother was light I said her nephew is, and not he is not mixed and no you won’t be getting a picture lol. Anyway I didn’t read your dumbass article because the title is absurd. If article was titled “Mixed people aren’t Black” I’d go “well duh” and call it a day, but no, it makes an asinine statement the there are no light black people and it’s simply untrue. Now this is truly my last reply to you. We can argee a mixed person isn’t black, though that is also debatable in a sense, but yes I can agree there. Anything beyond this I have nothing more to say to you. Have a good one.
But ole girl that wrote this blog has a white girl, waist length Rapunzel straight weave. lmao.
Ooooookkkkkk then!
Exactly !
Plus — someone needs to notify her of the following:
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
I know this website probably has nothing to do with me but this article showed up in a Google search I did about the same subject but in the Latino community. I’m pale skin light eyes and latina, living in Mexico. I’m American but I moved here about two years ago. And man what a culture shock I got, especially the unapologetic colorism that is so common here. The preference of light skin to dark skin here is undeniable. I grew up in the US, my mother is dark skin Mexican and my father light skin American of Latino descent. But I always identified as Mexican/American. I get treated here like a treasure, I get way better treatment than a darker skin person, my social life and dating life has definitely gotten better. People here, when they say someone is attractive they always say light skin as part of the requirements. Comments like, “He/she is attractive he/she is so light skin” or “your baby is so cute he/she is so light skin” and for a negative put down it would be “Ew he’s ugly so dark” or “stupid indigenous guy/lady”
And you can see the preference to light skin everywhere, on TV, the telenovelas, all light skin, modern pop music, all light skin because that’s what sells, the only dark skin musicians are from traditional Mexican music with the huge bands and accordions in the music. But if there is a band with a light skin front man, the girls go crazy.
Workers at big companies or at government agencies or at restaurants, all light skin. Dark skin people work at lower end jobs, unless you got some sort of genius degree.
And don’t even mention to a Mexican anything about their indigenous ancestry, they’ll bite your head off. “Are you calling me a stupid Indian?!”
Yikes, never again will I mention it. In the Mexican/American community it’s very different. There is a pride in our roots and we actually try to get closer to them. That’s because we never lived in Mexico, we are American raised, verrrry different from a Mexican raised in Mexico, the real Mexicans call us “pochos” meaning we are Americanized, and we also don’t speak Spanish very well. I found out that the Spanish I spoke most of my life was full of grammatical mistakes and bad translations, sometimes people wouldn’t even understand half of what I was saying lol
So I had to re learn the language basically. Just to give you an idea of just how different a Mexican/American is from a real Mexican person. In fact growing up I got made fun of because of how white I was, I would get told by my dark skin peers I wasn’t a “real Mexican”. Now I’m seeing that neither were they, they wouldn’t be a ” real Mexican ” here in Real Mexico lol
Also it turns out, where I live now, my light skin is preferred. I’m not gonna lie, it does feel good to be part of the smaller percentage and highly sought after look. But I think it is messed up for people of darker color, even people with dark skin don’t like being darker skin, can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard, “I wish I was light skin like you” or ” I want to marry a light skin person so that my kids are beautiful light skin kids ” etc.
It’s pretty sad but that’s how it’s always been here in Mexico, unbeknownst to me until I actually became a Real Mexican.
Hi. I am a light skinned Black woman who lived in Mexico for a year. Both in Central MX (Mexico City, population size like NYC) and in Riveria Maya (significant # of foreigners), I was GAWKED AT. Not stared at… GAWKED AT…. About 90% of the time I left my apt. Guys would literary STOP WALKING or stand /sit directly in front of me on the metro and stare directly in my face for over 30 secs , eyes completely widened…WITHOUT BLINKING. It was unnerving, and I never got used to it. I am lighter than a Mestizo (a brown Mexican of mixed heritage) and much lighter than the small African community there. But I am also tall (5’8″), thin, and have reddish hair. And am very attractive. So all of those things together could’ve had a role in the gawking…BUT IT’S NO EXCUSE. It was dehumanizing. In the US, staring can start a fight. Here, it felt like they were robbing my soul. I know I’m attractive- I don’t need that kind of creepy “validation”.
Did you experience gawking as well?
I did also notice their were many homeless Indigenous people (& their kids), and many suited Mexicans walked by without even looking at these people! It infuriated me, and I always gave them money. I noticed that many businessmen/women I taught in prestigious companies were white Mexicans. And I noticed that brown Mexicans were absent on TV. in fact, MX Media being one of the largest Latin markets in the world, it was sad to see that a disproportionate amount of their actors were expats from Spain, and most of their fashion models were from ARGENTINA.
As for dating, MX men had no problems hitting on me. Some of them were not sure however that I was Black…or assumed I was mixed, from Brazil or Cuba. I set them straight. Plus back then my Spanish wasn’t so great. It’s much better now. As for skin color, it’s so funny, because the man from Spain I’ve been dating all this time was actually DARKER THAN I when we met! (Cancun sun). I laugh when I see photos of us together. He gets like a Halle Berry color…And I’m like a lighter yellow-y shade most of the year. He lost much of his tan weeks after we met and I was devastated! I said he was ruining everything (lol)
His parents, around 70, fell in love with me, although likely never meeting a Black person before. His daughter too. I am very grateful for this…. A lot of Black people think everyone in the world hates them or is out to ‘get them’. TRAVEL before you make such assumptions. Many cultures have no probs with us, many LOVE us (Italians for example love Black woman), and many accept us unconditionally.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS
a “LIGHT-skinned BLACK person”.
THE very TERM itself WAS INVENTED
BY RACIAL-SUPREMACISTS — all in
order for them TO falsely-CLAIM that
BLACK-BLOOD WAS merely FILTH.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
NON-RACIST SHOULD NEVER USE
THAT OXYMORON of “light-skin black”.
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Hi KnowDiff,
I know exactly what you mean about the gawking lol Happens to me all the time, from both men and women actually, but like I said it’s because light skin is preferred here so it’s either that they are admiring you or threatened by you if they are with their significant other.
Yeah the men here are raised differently, they have no problem staring and getting caught, they don’t think it’s creepy, they think they can stare all they want, and they’ll keep on staring right at you until you leave.There is also no personal space, whether it comes from men or women, they stand reallllly close to you in line or grab something in front of you from almost behind you. There are definitely different customs and behaviors here that are gonna give you culture shock, but if you stay long enough you adjust and get used to it, because you can either accept it or move away because it’s not gonna change tbh
I live in North Mexico which is my understanding from people here that it is very different. When someone comes here from the South, they talk negatively about them, depending on where exactly they came from. Like if you are a person from Mexico City they call them Chilangos here. They have a very distinct accent, and they get made fun of here. But mostly the darker skin Chilangos are the ones that have that accent. The business people or the celebrities that live in Mexico City are usually light skin and/or have a higher education. So they don’t have that accent from what I’ve seen.
I live in Tijuana which is a border town, lots of tourists. I don’t see many black people here but when they are around they do get a little more attention because it’s different. From what I can see though there is no hatred or prejudice against them here, in fact some of the women love it when black men come to the clubs and bars lolllll…
And I don’t understand why they are not prejudice against black people since they are darker than the indigenous people, I think it’s because of the history here. Being indigenous is related to being of lower education, or unsanitary. When the Spanish came here they supposedly brought education, religion, and civilization, and they even forced them to speak Spanish and even now the Mexican government forces them to speak Spanish and doesn’t adjust anything to their language. And if you stayed indigenous you were considered ignorant. So I guess if you look like them, you are considered to be all those negative things, and when you’re white or light skin, you are automatically considered, cleaner, educated, and more attractive. I guess it’s something that has been programmed in them for generations. And since black people are of a very small part of the history of Mexico, I think it’s why they are indifferent about them. They don’t relate to anything about them to themselves.But I can see why there is alot of tension in the US with and within the black community though, since almost the entire history of the US involves the black people. I’m just gonna guess but again it’s just a guess I’m an outsider so I don’t really understand more than someone living it. But I think it’s somewhat similar to the light skin dark skin situation in Mexico. Like maybe if a dark skin black person hates the light skin black person, it might be that they relate their light skin to ancestral mixing and do not think of them as “pure” enough, therefore not accepted as a “real” black person, or being “white washed”, or they think they are better or something . Or when a light skin black person hates a dark skin black person it’s because they relate it to being too “pure” and therefore not civilized, educated, or hygienic enough. Again I’m just giving an outsiders perspective so I don’t know, I just see alot of similarities within the Mexican community and the Indigenous people.
Thanks for reading my super long posts! I didn’t think anyone was going to read it lol
“Colorism”
People need to find a hobby or a profession.
Are people really this unoccupied, that they’re coming up with this terms? Colorism? Really?
There’s genocide, that’s a cool term, also global warming, that’s a nice one, I’ve got one better, hate, that’s the best one.
Why do people bother coming up with this fancy words? Do they really want all this attention?
Lets face it black skin is not deemed attractive, adn alas when we look at the Media, we see nearly all the women are light skinned black women. No Indian men are shown, only light skinned Indian women, who change their name to more English names, Sonia, Pansea, nearly all the adverts are full of light coloured curly golden haired women , vowcha!, We see that most Indian girls who are present like Anita Rani, have shacked up with a white man. We have the proliferation of the pseudo ideal. Michelle Hussain, Nina Hussain, the list goes on. The only time a black women who is Black is when they win a Gold Medal, then they become our N*gger, and all Pretty Indian girls are English game. Not like Victoria “Nasal” Mitchell, a European who only has to tum up up. Black women and Indian Men have it tough in this so called equal age. Light skin is still perceived as attractive amoungst the females.
I’m a light skinned young black woman. Who has experienced prejudice from other blacks, whites, Hispanics and Latino. I don’t try to belong to a specific race. I do have a mixed heritage. Irish, European, native American…and instead of being against one another we should stop living with that “slave mentality” of the house and field n*****. One complexion is not better than the other. Remember blacks aren’t the only race that has faced injustices in America. I find it silly to even be discussing a possible “perk” of being a certain color.
I’m a mixed race woman, raised in the South. My mother is White, my father is Black. I have seen (and felt) the effects of colorism all my life. I didn’t realize what it was as a child, I never had a name for it, but I always knew there was a difference between being light-skinned, dark-skinned, and being mixed. I knew my friends from school never wanted to be referred to as dark-skinned or nappy headed. There was always negativity surrounding “undiluted” Blackness. There was pride in being Black, if you weren’t too Black. And it always confused me because these ideas weren’t just being upheld by Whites, but by Blacks as well.
But even though colorism exists and I have benefited from being a mixed race woman in a society that idolizes Caucasian features, I still remember feeling as though I was the heel of society because I wasn’t white. I’m not passing. I’m very clearly bi-racial and even that carries some strange culture to it.
One constant I have found throughout all these sub-cultures of Blackness, is that Black women (dark-skinned, light-skinned, mixed) are the broken backs of these hideous and out-dated ideas on beauty and worthiness. This system of beauty and worthiness hierarchy has been specifically applied to us, from the days in the field to the thriving Black woman taking on an entrepreneurial role; society has made it clear that if you happen to be Black and a woman at the same time, you have a check-list to adhere to before anyone can deem you worthy of happiness.
I think, sometimes, we have all become so frustrated and hurt by these standards that have been applied to us before we could even spell our own names. And we look to each other for support and so often we turn each other away because we have all suffered systemically in different ways.
I think a good place to start is to refrain from being involved in any kind of activity that pits one melanin against another. You can love your whole self without slandering someone else for having what you don’t.
We’re different shades, but we all share an ancestral history rich in suffering, creativity, and strength. We can’t forget that.
I love this blog and, of course, talking about the problem of colorism in the Black community is very important. Gotta air what ailes us to help correct the askew view our community has when it comes to skin tone and worthiness, but I do find sometimes that these posts can be somewhat problematic when we don’t discuss origins.
Without qualifying the origins of these societal behaviors (i.e., a light-skinned woman being seen as more desirable, while a dark-skinned woman isn’t) it almost perpetuates tension in our own community. When we discuss colorism, I think we need to discuss why we feel so inclined to practice or observe these types of privileges and injustices and why has it taken our community so long to correct itself.
As much as some light-skinned people buy into these doctrines of the lighter, the whiter, the better, there are just as many dark-skinned women feeding this monster.
Truth is, it’s killing all of us and we need to talk about it in a way that is constructive and well-informed by the history of how colorism came to be and why so many people in the Black community still practice it.
it seems like a lot of the privileges are a reflection of how racist our society is. It’s not like as a light skinned woman, I get hired somewhere, somehow get power, and then continue enabling racism. It’s like no, I’m a human being, I wasn’t born light to displease anyone, I’m trying to survive in a culture that hyper sexualizes women of color no matter their spectrum of brown. That is a continual thing I’ve seen at every job, i get treated like a piece of fucking candy. They don’t look at me and think, wow she’s an excellent editor. There is always some disgusting sexual tone I get from superiors. So my “light privilege” often lands me in a situation where I have to create SERIOUS boundaries and HOPE it doesn’t get me fired. I feel your upset with light privilege, i have white friends who dont have a clue about my struggles. That being said, i know they aren’t the problem, it’s a much bigger issue then that. I feel we as people of color need to operate with solidarity, respect and compassion for one another. And recognize that no matter how light or dark, that life will deal us struggles. All I can do, is take advantage of whatever privilege life gives me, and hope that in turn I can create opportunities for people based on the quality of who they are and not based on their skin tone. How about we look at what we CAN do to embrace one another, instead of point fingers and act like my privilege somehow keeps you from having a happy life. Here have some privilege on me. Cause if i could hand it to you I would. P.S. nothing scares white people more, then people of color loving each other and operating with solidarity. So when you’re ready, you got a friend in me.
I don’t think being a lightskinned black who calls themselves black is a privilege. We are black.
This topic has been following me around my whole life I’m so glad you wrote it. Much of what you wrote I can agree with but I am a light skinned black woman so maybe some things; by life experiences; I don’t. Growing up I was pretty much taught that I’m no better then anyone else and vice versa but the moment I started attending school It became painfully obvious that my parent’s had good intentions but they were wrong. The same way many of times I’ve seen dark skinned women called names based on their skin tone or something of the sort I personally have been called a lot of terms that I never did and never will appreciate and honestly the most aggravating thing about being called a Mut or confused or something based on my complexion is that the people that say them are my people. I’ve never in my life made my complexion my priority because really at the end of the day I’m a black women I don’t disrespect other black women or people in general for the way they look. How can anyone help the way they look? They can’t, I feel like Either black women think I’m not black enough I’m definitely not white or latina. so where exactly do I fit. Even my dark skinned ex best friend whom I was best friends with up until almost 2 years ago, because I couldn’t stand everything coming out of her mouth followed by ya’ll red hoes this or ya’ll red hoes that.She was always angry at me if someone she liked wanted to talk to me instead even when I steer clear of them because I didn’t want my best friend to be hurt because the guy didn’t want her and chose me. Nothing was ever good enough. Growing up around mostly black people I was always singled out by other dark black girls. Why? It makes no sense. My thing is we always say we don’t want white people to treat us differently and a lot of the times it’s hurtful when people single you out for being black. So why in the world do my own people, people who have the same african descendents that I have treat me like I’m not good enough to even use the word black. It came to a point that I had enough I cut her off completely she had nothing else negative to say about me except I was a light skinned bitch or hoe and why? She once told me, ya’ll red bitches even got it better during slavery I almost lost my shit.I told her hold the fuck up (excuse my french) but do you really think being a “bed wench” “comfort girl” was a privilege? GTFOH Who would want to be used as a prostitute not only your slave master but getting rented out Like a damn dvd at blockbusters? I’m pretty sure that “privilege” didn’t sit well with my ancestors. A unpaid prostitute, that’s a privilege well color me blind.I always feel like I have to prove myself to other black girls as if they are better than me. I (though now I know it’s unfounded) empathize with women of darker hue I’ve seen first hand the way they are treated it’s unfair to be judged or called ghetto, hoodrats, being over looked, and just completely ignored because of the stigma of having dark skin, there really is no excuse for that whatsoever. I will say this though, light skinned women do not have it easy I can’t fault anyone for assuming that because yes stereotypes are what society lives by. I’ve lived in this skin for 27 years and I can tell from personal experience the most discrimination and ridicule I’ve received throughout my entire life was from Dark skinned women. When white people look at us we’re still african american when hispanics look at us no matter how they may treat us to our faces to them we’re still african americans. The only 2 races on this planet that treat their own people like shit because they choose to follow trends or to just plain hate themselves and want everyone around them to hate themselves or indulge in self pity with them.Are blacks and Hispanics. Light skinned girls have problems with dark skinned girls dark skinned girls have an image of light skinned girls that’s not appealing to their standards so they don’t like them. Hispanics I’ve seen light skinned hispanics hate dark skinned Hispanics yet they are both Hispanics.It’s a complete contradiction when everyday black people are killing each other when I say black people I mean all including dark and light skinned and then you turn on the tv and see Black lives matters or riots with black people upset over something a white person has done. I think people need to make up their minds! If people are against dark skinned or light skinned other people no one is in your corner when you dislike everything that you feel is not black or black but not black enough, that’s basically saying your on a higher level of everyone else, this is so untrue. I used to feel guilty that my dark skinned friends would go through so much for looking the way they did I felt like I was contributing to why they felt the way they did I learned the hard way. I as a light skinned black woman should not have to be put in a category of not being black enough to call myself black. I’m over that at this point I am who i am and no one black white or whatever should have to always defend themselves because of their hue. The funny part is we as black people in general hate things we don’t understand make assumptions about other people not even bothering to get to know them. What I’ve heard in passing is that light skinned women think they are better then dark skinned. Which I wouldn’t deny that there are many light skinned women with that mentality I just can’t speak on them I speak for myself as being a light skinned woman I don’t and would never put one dark skinned chick in another category with another dark skinned woman that I have had prior incidents with that’s exactly where labels come from. There are some dark girls who self hate just like the light skinned there are some dark skinned girls who think they are better then light skinned ones just like light skinned ones. I love being who I am I’m a black woman who just so happens to be light skinned. By choice no nonetheless I wouldn’t change a thing.I love all my girls my circle is small but With them I don’t have to pretend or prove that I’m black my closest friend is from Kenya Africa she’s beautiful and kind, generous,way more educated than me, has a phd and even with the stereotype hanging over her head she’s content and happy.That’s what makes a person not their light or dark skinned as I’m sure majority of dark skinned women are I won’t put them in the category of my ex best friends they are comfortable being dark skinned and never let barriers come in their way. They are some successful black woman the only time stereotypes become apart of who you are as a person is because you allowed them to and really no one is at fault for that except that person. I did that long enough, even as being light skinned I can’t let someone else’s inner issues affect me. Why should I everyone has their own minds and souls. My light skinnedness doesn’t hurt anyone. It’s a gift and a curse and that’s only because of people around me who hate me before I even opened my mouth, that just makes them small minded and Since I am not the person who has to live with that I empathize for the dark skinned women who do.I love my black women I just wish they would actually see that instead of trying to belittle me to make themselves feel better. Growing up my dad told me you are what you anwser to. People are gonna criticize so what I’m sure there may very well be someone who feels some type of way about this post I really don’t care.This is my own personal truth take from it what you choose. I do wanna make this crystal I am speaking from my life experiences and how I feel and think as a black light skinned woman.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING
AS a LIGHT-skinned BLACK.
THE very TERM itself (i.e. the oxymoron
of “light-skinned black”) WAS INVENTED
BY RACIAL-SUPREMACISTS — all in
order for them TO falsely-CLAIM that
BLACK-BLOOD WAS merely FILTH.
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im black white Indian Korean, Russian German brittish
https://plus.google.com/b/102311719580461249997/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THIS ARTICLE IS NONSENSE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
So called “COLORISM” IS largely THE RESULT
OF the REFUSAL of many Black-Race people to
just FACE the FACT that THERE IS NO SUCH
THING AS a LIGHT-skinned BLACK person —
and — even THE very TERM itself (i.e. the odd
oxymoron of “light-skinned black”) WAS actually
INVENTED BY RACIAL-SUPREMACISTS
— all in order for them TO falsely-CLAIM
that BLACK-BLOOD WAS merely FILTH.
Please stop RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING people
and learn to let ‘Non-Black’ groups have the
Self-Determining Freedom of Identity that they
have been openly seeking in the U.S. since 1920.
y’all need to grow the fuck up and quit worrying about race. Drawing constant attention to it is THE BIGGEST PROBLEM towards it.
Is this real….Guilty Of My Black Skin? I saw this at http://www.represent.com/guilty-of-my-black-skin
I am not sure I agree with all of the things listed on this colorism list. I have to say that I am not a light skinned girl at all, and in all fairness I have been told by many that I am neither dark or light, but I have to say that I find most of those comments a little ridiculous. Yes, it is true that light skinned women tend to be casted for TV parts more than darker skinned women, but to really believe that a lighter skinned person has it easier is a huge assumption. My mother, her siblings, and her mother are all lighter complexioned; some even with lighter eyes and hair, and they will tell you that it was no walk in the park for them growing up; especially for my grandmother. I think we need to really evaluate ourselves as a person, and uphold ourselves to a higher standard in our own hearts and minds, and maybe that will be conveyed by others around us. I have never been thought of as dumb because I am not light skinned; in fact many accuse me of being smarter than I believe I actually am. I have found it rather easy to gain employment when I am qualified for a position, and believe ALL brown people experience acts of racism or prejudice towards them at least once in our life. A lighter skinned brown person is no exception to this rule. We are still brown to the person who is not brown no matter how light brown we are. Ijs, don’t be so quick to peg the lighter person as having it easier because it isn’t always so, most of the time they have the worse experiences dealing with those who are darker than them when we are the closest or the very thing they are related to.
I know this is late but I just wanted to say I absolutely adore melanin and I wish I had the skin color you guys had but anyways I’m a lightskin African American so I don’t know what you guys go through on a daily basis but I just wanted to say black is beautiful and always remain proud of who you’re and your skin color 😊. Sorry if my grammar isn’t that good
For all those who think colorism is a figment of a bitter woman’s imagination that has no tangible effect check out the financial statistics.
Dark skinned people are disproportionately poor and incarcerated.
IT’S THE BEHAVIOR — NOT THE COLORING —
OF THE DARK PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEIR
LIVES SO MUCH HARDER THAN OTHERS !!!
Proud Redbone spoke my truth! This list is straight BS! “The perception that your relaxed hair is natural!” WTF? How did this list get created? Is it just a collection of the authors personal insecurities?
Proud Redbone, reading your post was like reading my own life! They try you because you light, want to fight you over a n*gga, treat you like you weak, and each and every time we have to show them that they slippin! With all. the other haters in this world, why hate so damn hard on each other? I’ll ask the question too…with this BS list, am I supposed to feel bad about my God given skin color?
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You have made an EXCELLENT POINT here !!!
Some people — (such as the obviously-jealous
and shamelessly-whiny author of this essay) —
are under the very false-impression that others
are “obligated to feel bad” merely due to having
“racial features” that differ-from that of the whiner.
Perhaps IF these same people — (such as the
obviously-jealous and shamelessly-whiny
author of this essay) — would STOP with
the Racial-Kidnapping of other people —
THEN they would NOT experience this
alleged (so-called) “colorism” (about
which they love to constantly whine).
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
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HERE’S A WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU
MAYBE … IF … YOU WOULD JUST STOP
WITH YOUR ‘RACIAL-KIDNAPPING’ OF
OTHER PEOPLE … PERHAPS … THEN …
YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE LESS AND
LESS (OR PERHAPS EVEN NONE) OF
THIS (SO-CALLED) “COLORISM” OF
WHICH YOU JUST LOVE TO WHINE.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THUS … YOUR STEPS-TO-FREEDOM
ARE AS FOLLOWS … FIRST … STOP
… RACIALLY-KIDNAPPING OTHERS
AND THEN … STOP … WHINING …
AND THEN … JUST “GET OVER IT”.
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First of all I can tell a lot of yall don’t know your history. Im light skin. The original man is black. White came from black. Hispanic or mexican is black people. Mexicans are Indians. Indians are black people. German, American, Japanese are not races those are nationalities. Im mixed wit black, white, and Indian. I have more black in me. Light skin community never claim to be white or turn our back on our black community. Black and White is skin tone not race. Light skin comes from my dad who is mixed. My mom is brown skin she is black. My dad is the light skin family. We have dealt with racism 4 all our lives and don’t get privileged. We bust our asses to get where we our so don’t speak on LIGHT SKIN people like U know us. I live in the SOUTH. My light skin family is known as the Grant family. A huge family thats all over the United States its a Gigantic family. The family was started by a white slave owner as most DARK SKINS JOKE ABOUT. I have white relatives never met them. JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY GOT WHITE PEOPLE IN THEY FAMILY. SOMEBODY NAME ONE NASTY SLAVE OWNER THAT WASN’T MESSING WIT THA SLAVES. WE JUST SEGREGATED THATS ALL. WE CAN ACT LIKE WE NOT BUT SOME WHERE DOWN THE LINE WE ARE. I KNOW THEIRS ISSUES AND CONFLICT BETWEEN DARK SKINS AND LIGHT SKINS. DON’T U KNOW A DARK SKIN CAN HAVE WHITE IN THEM ITS ALL BOUT WHAT THE DOMINANT GENE GO DO. MY UNCLE MOTHER WHO IS THE GRANT WHICH IS LIGHT WHEN SHE WAS PREGNANT MY UNCLE CAME OUT DARK BROWN NEVER LIGHT SKIN. MY GRANDFATHER IS DARK BROWN. MY SISTER IS DARK BROWN AND LIGHT SKIN. MY OTHER SIBLINGS ARE EVEN THO WE HALF SIBLINGS TJE GRANT LIGHT SKIN GENE IS KNOWN TO BE DOMINANT. WOW OUR WOMEN GET PICKED OVER YALL GET OVER IT THEIRS PLENTY MEN OUT THEIR 4 EVERYBODY 4 YALL SO STOP BLAMING US 4 MISTREATMENT. ARABS ARE BLACK PEOPLE. AFRICA WAS THE HOMELAND AND PEOPLE MIGRATED THEIR U HAVE IT. WHAT BOUT THOSE LIGHT SKINS IN OTHER COUNTRIES THEY ASS GET MISTREATED BAD LIKE OVER HEAR. CAUSE LAST TIME I CHECK WAT BOUT THESE DARK SKINS THAT END UP BEING FAMOUS AND RICH. LIKE THE WACK RAPPERS U GOT NOW A DAYS THEY SELL OUTS AND ACT LIKE THEY DIDN’T GROW UP LIKE WE DID AND LIGHT SKINS ACT LIKE THIS 2 IM NOT BIAS LIKE U. DARK SKINS THINK CAUSE THEY GET 300 DOLLAR SHOES THAT MAKES THEM BETTER THAN THE OTHER BLACK GUY WHO PARENTS STRUGGLE TO PUT HIM THROUGH SCHOOL AND LIGHT SKINS DO THIS 2. DARK SKINS MALES DEGRADE THEY WOMEN AND HOE AROUND HAVE YALL WOMEN FIGHTING EACHOTHER ACTING LIKE THEY DON’T PLAY PART IN ANYTHING AND LIGHT SKINS DO IT 2. THAT BEING SAID WE ARE NOT DIFFERENT SO DON’T SPEAK ON US LIKE WE DON’T HAVE BLACK IN US.
Hahahahaha wtf, how are Mexicans from India idiot, do you mean the Natives? Yes they are, but not Indians, Indians are from India, you’re just as ignorant as the stereotype you represent. Mexican is a nationality, Mexicans are literally mixed people, indigenous with european or Eastern, for example with Spaniard, French, Asian, etc. Mexican people come in different shapes, sizes, colors. Depending on where you go, in some places they are extremely short height and dark skin in others they are tall, white skin, blonde, and blue eyes, and sometimes a mixture. How do you know the first man was black? Are you religious? That means whatever religion you follow is your only belief, they all differ where and how man exist.. Do you believe in evolution? Then that means we came from ape, and the first color of Neanderthal man was darker skin, or are your going to say that’s racist too. Also, you keep talking about whites and their slaves, if you’re so unassociated with it, why do you still talk like one, hahaha
Any complexion that is a hue lighter than medium brown is dark complected. If you do not believe this to be true you should ask a white friend or co- worker that to tell you the truth. If you are light complected your only comment should be I am sorry that you have to experience colorism (empathy), or I have a family member or friend that has had the same life experience and its disheartening. Commenting on how you were attacked because you are light complected is self- serving. Going on and on and on about how you are proud of your light complexion; therefore, we should be proud too is self-serving, as well, recommending darker complected women to date outside of our race only perptuates colorism. When one shows a lack of empathy this solidifies your internal value system of superiority complex. This colorism thing is similar to recovering from alcoholism, in that, you have to move past the first stage of denial for all of us to heal. Last, it is the light complected woman that needs to be healed as colorism is only a symptom of the light complected woman’s illness of superiority.
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LOL — your comment merely serves to
reveal just how truly stupid your ilk are.
How about some of you dark-skinned
people learn how to apologize for the
countless numbers of times entire
GANGS of your ilk have physically
assaulted some person with light
skin and great hair and a thin body?
In addition …
How about some of you dark-skinned
people learn how to apologize for the
countless numbers of times TONS of
you are hired over a BETTER qualified
person with light skin merely because
your coloring shows up better in photos
and a company needs YOU to satisfy
an affirmative-action quota (rather than
hire a light-skinned person with skills)?
You people are about the worst people
on the planet — constantly walking all
around with a chip-on-your-shoulder
thinking that you have a ‘right’ to
‘demand’ that the glove “apologize”
to you for non-offenses and “give”
you whatever you want (and have
not earned) — then “wonder why”
most people of every race will do
anything on earth to avoid your ilk.
Here’s a little newsflash for you — stupid
— THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A
LIGHT-Skinned BLACK person and you
Blacks need to stop with your constant
Racial-Kidnapping of other people groups.
Some of you Blacks (with your
race-obsession) are just pathetic.
WAKE UP — SMELL THE COFFEE
— AND READ THIS LINK — STUPID.
https://plus.googleapis.com/wm/4/102311719580461249997/posts/YB15Rfa5wat
THE LINK HAS INFORMATION THAT
PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HAVE
REPEATEDLY TRIED TO MAKE
CLEAR TO YOU STUPID BLACKS.
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What a supdid article written by a racist. People need to stop focusing on color so much. Are skin colour doesn’t define us aspeople there is beauty in all races. The world just blinded. Just because your lightskined doesn’t mean your better.
You are an idiot and your comment is moronic..
Nowhere does the article (nor any of the comments)
claim that a person is “better” because they have a
skin coloring that is “light” — you stupid moron.
Did you even bother to read anything posted here
(including the stupid essay) before you commented?
People like you are why the globe thinks every black
person is an idiot who speaks without any knowledge.
I am a lightskin little girl I’m 11. I always wanted long hair. Some of this stuff I experience like being called redbone. I used to have long hair but it was damaged. Some of my friends say that I think I’m better than them because I’m light skinned and they are darkskinned. They don’t know how long I’ve been messed with about being a light skinned child. People do think I’m mixed. I kinda am down the line. I have white and mexican relatives most of them have colored eyes and have long soft curly hair. I have a darker shade of hazel eyes and hair that stops at the end of my neck and it’s thick and not that soft. When I’m older it might grow. I never think I’m better than someone because I’m a lighter color. People need to make a diffrence.😏👏👏🙏🙆